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Did the Flezz economy just get raped overnight?

was Posted:

I just prefer solutions that could fix more than one “problem”.

Multi-problem solutions aren’t always possible, and contrary to what you may think we can work on multiple problems at once without harming our effectiveness.

Come up with a list of other problems you consider to be important, and start a thread discussing them. Evil Trout’s comments suggest that he’s going to be using suggestions that have been proposed here, and the only thing preventing other issues from being resolved is that there are few or no people championing their severity.

Did the Flezz economy just get raped overnight?

was Posted:

It is a lazy temporary solution.

Actually, no, it’s the ONLY solution. A flezz sink is, by definition, something that removes flezz from the system. If you don’t get rid of flezz, then it just keeps building up.

You can limit the economy by cutting back on income, but as we’ve seen that’s a painful process and leaves some clbumes struggling more than they should be. You can also limit the economy with an arbitrary penalty flezz sink, but that DOES punish people for playing the game – nobody likes taxes.

However, the best way to limit the economy is to give people something that they WANT to spend flezz on, but don’t NEED to spend flezz on.

Think of it like a bathtub; you can keep it from overflowing by cutting back on the faucet, you can keep it from overflowing with an overflow drain, or you can keep it from overflowing by unclogging the drain and letting the flow rates and water level hit an equilibrium.

Did the Flezz economy just get raped overnight?

Evil Trout Posted:

Flezz sinks are coming too, actually.

You can’t really rebalance the economy until you have an outlet.

You said before that you toned down income because it greatly exceeded expenditures, but doing so with nothing to spend flezz on but healing items and repairs naturally means that you would be overcompensating and pushing some people too close to the break-even point.

Once you put in flezz sinks, the economy will start to starve and then you’ll have to start over from the other side of things. Granted, it’s better to be running too lean than too rich, but I’m betting that the following weeks will be filled with much frustration and BAAWWWing.

Yes, I rant and type entirely too much.

No word can describe my frustration now that my 55 hard earned Venus de Milos have become half priced

Canadian Kitten Posted:

As far as pwning forums is concerned, my emo-alt seems to be the weakest character. My troll and hacker breeze through almost every forum, with my camwhore- there aren’t many forums I can’t one-hit. My emo really has to fight through the forums.

I was talking about nerfs specifically. I completely understand that not every clbum was equally boosted by episode 2, but by the same token camwhores have been the hardest hit by the market corrections and thus the most nerfed.

Also, I said he was free to argue that Trolls got the short end of the stick, but that doesn’t mean I actually believe it.

No word can describe my frustration now that my 55 hard earned Venus de Milos have become half priced

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

Also, it does seem like alot of the nerfs have been specifically designed to hurt trolls, who are already underpowered for episode 2 (really, a clbum which specialises in defense, lol)

The market changes have hurt camwhores the most.

Testing showed that a 7cha emokid was getting the exact same deliveries for the exact same forums as a 58cha camwhore, but the camwhore equipment and sexiness restoring items cost twice as much as any other clbumes equipment.

Now, you’re free to argue that Ep2 wasn’t as kind to trolls as it was to other clbumes, but you haven’t really been nerfed all that much.

Evil Trout: Could we get a changelog page? I know you’re doing the proper developer thing and keeping a changelog, but we can’t actually see it. Making it public could resolve a lot of arguments.

Did the Flezz economy just get raped overnight?

Evil Trout Posted:

Yes I’m aware that some of the caps mean that charisma is not effective as its high levels would lead you to believe. Those stats will be brought into line too!

As I said in the previous post, balance is an ongoing process.

Oh, no, you took that the wrong way. Sorry, I should have worded it better.

I was simply establishing how drastic the cap actually IS in an attempt to get people to stop BAWWWing about the camwhore’s alleged godlike income powers. I was also pointing out that the change has been noticed, and that it is a matter of concern.

I’ve got 700k flezz, the best equipment available, and a max daily consumable upkeep of about 2k. I’m in no real rush, but lower level camwhores aren’t so lucky. Since camwhore eq costs about twice as much as other clbumes, it doesn’t take a lot of thought to realize that mid-level camwhores are going to be facing a seriously uphill fight.

But like I said: I, personally, have no real reason to care about the changes. Heck, in a few days I can pay Haxl a visit and bump my Ego up from 165 (PruneServ + Deluxe Paperclip bumistant Suite v9.0 [2 CDs].exec + Fr4gGingR1teZ 2020 male reproductive organblaster™ Premier Xtreem™ Edition + Tonsil Regeneration + 5ego base) to over 1k so I can absorb the odd hit or two while pwning forums at the cost of a few rounds.

On a highly unrelated note, Experimental Vaginoplasty is actually pretty useless; with the best equipment (No .moar files) and no levels in sexiness, it brings my sexiness to 1035 from 935. I don’t know how the other clbumes’ surgeries fare, but I’m getting more millage out of the permanoob surgery.

Did the Flezz economy just get raped overnight?

SiCk BaLiN D-lUx Posted:

Evil Trout has ended the artificially high economy of mid-2008. We are now returning to the way things were meant to be.

Almost. The problem is that there seems to be a point at which charisma stops doing anything, so while camwhores had an advantage pulling down flezz in ep1 that’s not the case in ep2.

Also, I would like to make a correction: On the same day, pwning the same forums with the same number of visits, my friend’s 7cha emokid (Not ~20cha, as I stated before) got the exact same items as my 58cha camwhore. This was about as controlled as we could get things, but if somebody wants to do multiple trials to test it for themselves they’re more than welcome to do so.

TL;DR: ****’s ****ed.

Suggestion: Co-Op and Battle

Can’t Emos wear glbumes? I thought any clbum could wear them if they showed up in the pwn shop. Once the better Ep2 glbumes crop up there, Camwhores will decidedly be at a disadvantage against everything but permanoobs and re-res.

After all, camwhores have already had their most significant advantage taken away; with the recent tweaks to deliveries and junk sell prices, Camwhores aren’t the high-flezz clbum they used to be. 60+ charisma is a nice and imposing number and all, but yesterday I compared my Camwhore’s deliveries with a ~20cha emokid and we both got the exact same items from pwning the exact same forums.

Really, what’s the point of a high-charisma clbum when charisma is capped so low?

Suggestion: Co-Op and Battle

Co-op mode would be interesting, but it would probably require that players be able to use items on each other. It might even require some new items for larger raids.

As far as versus, that would be kinda pointless. Whoever had less lag would win.

Good Idea/Bad Idea? Rare Threads

Sounds like a plan.