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So, like, whut level were you when you completed Eppy1? (like, rilly spoilery and stuff)

I bounced that Nuclear forum at level 7, although I levelled up during the run. Overstocked my items by a factor of 3 though.

One account per IP address makes me a sad panda.

jpsteel Posted:

If you are using a router then a new ip address will be generated for each computer in a house using a wireless connection. So if all your brothers and sisters have their own computers then it shouldn’t be a problem. If not then sharing is caring Log in to see images!

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work exactly like you think it does for the majority of home users out there. While every computer does get their own IP from the router, these IPs are strictly for internal use only and to the outside world (i.e. ForumWarz), it appears as if all of those computers are coming from one IP (unless you specifically setup your routing otherwise).

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How we plan to improve ForumBuildr!

I think Skyreal and others has some really good suggestions here. I’d like to offer a couple of addendums though:

1. To make things easier when awarding additional submissions in a limited submission scenario, set a threshold upvote number that scales with the total number of votes cast and time till the end of submissions. If an idea exceeds that threshold number, then the owner of the idea has one of their submission slots freed up for an additional submission.

2. While the ideas suggested for how to handle downvoting abuse are innovative, there is a method that hasn’t been suggested which might be easier to implement. Maintain the current method of removing votes from the general voting when their score gets to low, but instead of outright deleting the idea, put it into a separate category (call it “pwned ideas” ) that players can browse if they so choose. Players may choose to upvote ideas in this category, but no further downvotes can happen. If a threshold number of upvotes is achieved, then the idea is put back into the general voting list again. This will help recover from spam downvoting by certain klans, and allow players to self-police the submissions themselves.

3. Award scoops at then end of the week, instead of as votes acgreat timesulate. This will help mollify scoop farming by klans, and hopefully make it less attractive to earn scoops via klan mbum-voting.

Watch out for this one...lost all my Flezz

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Forumbuildr Voting

Nillo Posted:

’s what moderators are for. If the devs don’t have the time to kick abusers they should start looking for friendly well-meaning players who can do it for them. That is, unless they come up with a different way to solve the problem. Like removing the domination thing and Flezz payouts from the Forumbuilder altogether.

My 2 cents on this matter is that the abuse takes place because this is an automated system. Any automated but unmoderated system that pays out any kind of advantage will be abused. I see two things that would help reduce the amount of abuse that is done on forumbuildr.

First, if the automated removal process is considered a necessity, then add a time or max vote factor into the removal process. Either give ideas a base time (such as 24 hours) for maximum review before automatically removing it from the system, or use a maximum votes condition so that the idea cannot be automatically removed until a certain number of votes have been recorded (preferably high enough to overcome a single clan or group of clans from continuing their abuse).

Second, why is the selection system automated? Having the most votes should not automatically move an idea into the next forumbuildr slot. Instead, have a dev (or moderator if devs don’t have time) review the idea list, with the number of positive votes being a key weight on the decision. Manual review ideas will show up blatant system gaming, and can lead to an audit to identify the troublemakers. It might still be advisable to auto-remove low score reviews (I’m not a big fan of auto-removal, but acknowledge that there might be a need) from public view, but leave the actual idea submission in place for the manual review.