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[CLOSED] A Non-Hypothetical Situation | |||||||
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After the success of my last thread, I bring you a true story.
Say for instance a man (we shall call him megazeroexe) commited a bannable offence, such as finding the address of a moderator (we shall call him Catt Although) and subsequently sharing the information in a thread. None of these people wanted to harm Catt Although, but none the less megazeroexe has committed a bannable offence and is banned. megazeroexe does his time and is taken off his ban and is enjoying his time unbanned once again. Later on, one of the people megazeroexe told in the thread decides to send Catt Although memo notes with the words “STOP CLOSING MY THREADS!!!! – NERD OF POWERS”. Who do you think should be banned, if anybody? And why? Edit: ah bbcode we meet again. cya edited this message on 09/04/2010 10:04PM |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 9:56PM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
Chawin Posted:
Didn’t that just say “STOP BANNING ME! – TNOP” a while ago? |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:04PM | View thew00's Profile | # | ||||||
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thew00 Posted: This read is under maintenance and is undergoing heavy editing right now. |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:04PM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
Chawin Posted:
I’ll just leave this here for now Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:07PM | View thew00's Profile | # | ||||||
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Nerd o powa because he’s ****ing annoying |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:09PM | sdgrbbum09 | # | ||||||
sdgrbbum09 Posted:
i also second that opinion |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:15PM | View thew00's Profile | # | ||||||
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Chawin Posted: I already told you the answer – m0x should be rebanned since he acted as his own counsel and was not able to talk his way out of the ban so he is incompetent. Whoever used the information to send stupid notes to Catt should be beaten to death but not banned. |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:36PM | View Fiasco's Profile | # | ||||||
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in this situation, i think the person sending the memo notes should be banned, because that’s “i know where you live” creepy. posting someone’s address is p ****ed up (and creepy in the same way); i’m glad the mods take it seriously. |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:46PM | View wtfmcnuggets's Profile | # | ||||||
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google wtf is this omg |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 10:48PM | View duca's Profile | # | ||||||
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Since it’s out there, yes, this is why m0x got re-banned. The extent of the information shared warranted a perma, imo – especially since it was a mod that was at the center of it. (For the record, that extent of info would lead me to perma anyone that did it regardless of who the subject was.)
If I knew who sent it, they’d get banned too. Unfortunately, I don’t know who did it.
To say that spacekadt’s name is John Jones is so very incredibly different from saying spacekadt’s name is John Jones and works at (company and full address) and lives at (full address), oh, and here’s the phone number and everything else under the sun.
At that point, it’s not a game. It’s not funny. And it’s not at all ok. When someone uses that information in any way, shape or form, both parties deserve equal punishment.
If m0x thinks I acted unfairly, he knows how to appeal. |
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Posted On: 09/04/2010 11:22PM | View spacekadt's Profile | # | ||||||
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What you’re saying is that you plan to send a note to Catt in NoP’s name. (and lying about the last thread being a success) Genius.
I don’t really understand the rebanning of m0x if the issue was dealt with satisfactorily somehow and he was unbanned already. (presumably with the ok from Catt) |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 3:48AM | View Bacchus's Profile | # | ||||||
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Bacchus Posted:
To be clear, I don’t care. Really that’s Catt’s call as far as I’m concerned. Unban Chelmy, though. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 3:56AM | View Bacchus's Profile | # | ||||||
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I know who sent the notes and it wasn’t megazeroexe. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 7:18AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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My point is that megazeroexe has already has his ban for sharing the information, why should he be banned again for something he didn’t do. With a few google searches I found out the information just as easily and I’m sure anyone with the remotest bit of intelligence on Flamebate could do the same |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 7:30AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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Chawin Posted:
You’re expecting Flamebate to work like the real world. That’s your first mistake. However, in an attempt to give a least a mildly viable analogy, here goes. A customer walks into a store. He slips on a patch of wet floor and breaks his leg. There was no ‘Wet Floor’ sign posted. The janitor in charge has been properly trained, and has never made this kind of error before. Who do you think the customer is going to sue? The janitor, or the owner?
Even though the owner did nothing wrong, he’ll still be held accountable. This was part of the risks he took when he opened a store in the first place. He bumumed those risks when he started the business.
m0x, in a similar vein, bumumed certain risks when he crossed the line and posted detailed personal information on this site. If additional infractions occur because of a previous infractions, then additional consequences are also possible, and highly likely.
The fact that someone could obtain the same information if they looked hard enough isn’t relevant.
Chawin Posted:
And I’m not sure what you meant by ‘success’ in your last thread. The only possibly relevant answer was regarding the people in charge of the WPP, in that they should have moved ‘John’ to a new address. The only way that works as an analogy to this situation is if it were possible for Catt to change his/her personal information… which is ridiculous.
Even man-man’s comment about ”Dave already did time for revealing John’s location, so he can’t be done for that again” isn’t specifically relevant, since m0x was technically on ‘probation’, and if you want to use real-world analogies, being on probation and having that status changed isn’t the same as being re-tried or re-punished for the original crime. m0x could have (and probably should have) been permabanned at the original offense back in May.
m0x was living on borrowed time, whether he knew it or not.
Edit: m0x was permabanned back in May, but we revised his status. So, it was basically a commuted sentence, which doesn’t mean it’s overturned. Sergeant Cid edited this message on 09/05/2010 8:51AM |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 8:48AM | View Sergeant Cid's Profile | # | ||||||
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Sergeant Cid Posted: I hope you realise your analogy is even stupider than mine? |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 9:20AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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Chawin Posted:
I’m glad you realize how ridiculous yours was in the first place. You asked why someone could be held accountable for something they were not directly responsible for. You received a valid answer. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 9:26AM | View Sergeant Cid's Profile | # | ||||||
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Sergeant Cid Posted:
Valid doesn’t mean it’s good. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 9:39AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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I would also like to ask why megazeroexe’s ban reason was withheld from the community? |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 10:36AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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Chawin Posted:this |
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Posted On: 09/05/2010 11:11AM | View Patently Chill P...'s Profile | # | ||||||