not during the stunt we did this round, that this thread was explicitly about, I mean.

looks like acid flux did that last round. thats all him, the rest of us didn’t even know about it till the night we exposed it. (at least I didn’t)

I guess he was trying to get it some exposure on his own last week, but to no avail?

Pumpkinburger Posted:

Maybe you could be less of a douchetard and let me express my opinion? The card exploit had a huge impact on the last round of domination. That is all I’m trying to get through.

Which is why we did this thing to get it fixed, which is what my Klan’s been saying for the last four pages, because CZ apparently didn’t care about it last week when only a few individuals were doing it.

Seriously, at this point, it’s just the same things over and over. If you have anything to say, 99.9% chance it’s been addressed last page, and every page before that. Go back and read Log in to see images! Lust edited this message on 04/03/2008 9:52PM

Tarman Posted:

so your opinion is that people who get a bug fixed but dont take advantage of it are bumholes.

I did just say that someone DID take advantage of it. In my bracket. Last week.

It’s nice that everyone got the bug fixed, let’s just forget about it.

If you’re just gonna troll Tarman, go do it in the RP forums.

You know what? It doesn’t matter. I quit. This is obviously not the game for me if I’m that stupid and illiterate.

Holy **** this thread sucks! I go away for one lousy day and you guys turn this issue into a 10 page thread?

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Remember guys, the whole point of the game is to make fun of Emo Kids and Trolls.

While some of the posts in this thread where well thought out and had some valid criticism, I think a lot of the back and forth was completely unnecessary.

Having said that, I feel like I should respond to the criticisms about my involvement in the whole thing, so that you better understand where I’m coming from.

Every day there are dozens of bugs submitted, and hundreds of odd server activity flagged. Every single one gets read, but believe it or not, the majority do not warrant responses. We get a lot of bugs every day about things that aren’t broken, and whose answers are easily found in the FAQ threads or the Wiki.

Now, sometimes legit bugs get submitted and slip through. I did see (and so did The Other Other Hole) this particular exploit reported in the past, but when I tried to reproduce it, it always charged me for the card, so I bumumed that the player who submitted it had thought they were exploiting something when they weren’t. The important detail I missed was that you needed exactly 4 scoops to do it.

So yes, I should have investigated further, but let’s face it, with the limited resources we have on hand some bugs are going to slip through. Also, no matter how well I do my job, there will be more exploits in the future.

I think it’s a bit silly that someone suggested that since I didn’t respond the first time that it was necessary to do a huge public demonstration. While sure, it caught my eye, so did the detailed email I received about the bug this morning.

If you submit a huge exploit, and you don’t hear back in a couple of days, please RE-SUBMIT it. It’s obviously important and we’re not ignoring it because we don’t care.

We are very happy to receive reports on exploits and bugs so that they can be fixed. I felt the activities in IDC last week were a huge step above and beyond what I consider normal user testing of an app so I decided to reward them. I also rewarded a Face Punch Studios exploit a while ago because their members submitted it at least a dozen times in the 30 minute period after it was discovered.

I don’t even mind how it was reported, I’m pretty sure I personally thanked every single person who submitted it today, I just object to the idea that this was the only way of letting us know.

Also, generally speaking: asking for E-Peen™ is not a good strategy. People ask me for E-Peen™ all the time for various things and while we like to hear suggestions we can’t reward every single little thing. Does this mean some of the E-Peen™ is awarded inconsistently? Yes. But they always have been. Some of them are easy to obtain, others are almost impossible.

I sincerely hope that not receiving E-Peen™ for a bug submissions doesn’t offend you to the point where you don’t want to submit bugs in the future. After all, EVERY player, not just you gets helped when a bug is fixed. It makes the game better and helps the community.

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Lust Posted:

Now that you’re back, is there any chance that the two players who kinda got caught in the crossfire will get their cards/scoops back?

Mathluv8 (Not even in our Klan) had 10 cards from gambling and got nuked, and WetSocket, who we added to our Klan just last night because he’d managed to get 55 cards on day 1 from gambling got nuked also.

Their spendfriend logs should confirm this Log in to see images!

I believe I was tubmailed about both — I was really surprised because I thought I’d set the Dom Card threshold really high, I’ll take a look tomorrow. I was a bit harried with with the delete statements this morning :S.

edit: THANK YOU

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Arktor Posted:

Is that 12 times each or overall?

Overall. Each would have been very annoying.

Acid Flux Posted:

Although apparently he just took all six of my medals, even though I earned my first two a while back, long before the exploit. It was four medals that I earned this week. But again, whatever. I’ll just earn more.

You have 2 now. Did you use the “I broke this ****ty game” link and post how you could earn free cards before Trout looked at your profile or did you just expect him to guess?

For the record, I’m sorry I didn’t make it to my Klan’s exposé of this exploit. I support the KoLOL postings above.

I also think its damn descent of us/my Klan mates to do pop out our discoveries (in general) in such a high profile way within a week or so of finding them. (Also referring to Escher’s crew keeping all you dabblers in the loop through Wiki, despite your lack of involvement.)

I don’t think it’s fully appreciated that we WANT fair competition, and try to drum it up.

(I also don’t think it’s appreciated that I and many klanmates had access to this cheat through our forum, yet didn’t to keep that round fair.)

OO

It’s obvious you guys did this just to make a scene and possibly get an epeen. The best way to go about this sort of thing is submitting a bug report. Evil trout ignored it? Do it again. Get your friends to do it. If you think it’s serious enough to screw some people out of winning medals, then bug report it instead of screwing people out of medals.

You know that doing this wasn’t the best way to bring his attention to this, so stop pretending it was.