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Wikipedia Rule: What Up With That? | |||||||
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As many of you are aware, recently leetlol and I were banned for vandalizing the Forumwarz wikipedia page (“Treason” it was called in the ban reason). Now, believe it or not, I’m not here to argue against this rule. It is painfully obvious that CZ and most mods see nothing wrong with this rule, and trying to get it repealed or changed would be a monumental waste of time, even for me.
Don’t get me wrong, it is the single dumbest rule I’ve ever seen on a website. But it’s so far out there and unnecessary that it would actually take quite a bit of effort to break, and there are much more effective ways of causing **** here. I digress…
The purpose of this thread is to get some kind of idea of what CZ considers “vandalism”. Changing names, dates, and the like are obvious examples, but what if someone were to create a “Forumwarz Community” heading in the article? How candid could we be in filling out that section? Could we express our true feelings about a dying community and a development team that has lost sight of what used to make this place great? Or is that trolling? Could we make a “Drama” heading and fill it with Fwz dirty laundry, or would that be “detrimental to the interests of CZ”?
I get it, we can’t change JB’s name anymore. We should still be able to contribute to that article, and even add things that CZ might not like, if they are in fact true. WIkipedia isn’t another place for you to advertise, to put your best foot forward. Anyone who reads the forumwarz wiki article should get the most all-emcompasing impression of our fine website, not some heavily protected and polished shinejob. |
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Posted On: 10/24/2009 2:54PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Personally, I don’t see a problem with this. No one ever said that the expression of opinion wasn’t allowed. There’s a huge difference between critiques & reviews versus trolling. I think any contributions to the ForumWarz wiki page would be welcome, so long as they had relevant value at didn’t devolve into flaming, trolling or personal attacks. Even if it was a negative review, that’s a far cry from simply vandalizing a page with ‘LOL U SUK’.
However, I’d like you to explain to me how the title of this thread is relevant to the topic at hand. |
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Posted On: 10/24/2009 3:26PM | View Sergeant Cid's Profile | # | ||||||
Sergeant Cid Posted:
Well, it got us to look, didn’t it? Good title, would click again. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 8:22PM | View nTerra's Profile | # | ||||||
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nTerra Posted:
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 8:25PM | View CrinkzPipe's Profile | # | ||||||
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“Feelings” have NO PLACE in an encyclopedia. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 8:28PM | Bondage**** | # | ||||||
Wikipedia is not a traditional encyclopedia. Notes about the community, baggage, features and problems of FWZ would be a good addition to the article. I wouldn’t expect something as petty as “watch out for MC Banhammer, that guy’s a dildo” (statement chosen because it’s obviously not true) would stay put very long or is likely to be added in the first place since it’s not very funny and wouldn’t amount to anything. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 8:40PM | View nTerra's Profile | # | ||||||
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nTerra Posted:
this. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 9:16PM | View Melanin-Enhanced...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Not to mention that nobody of any importance views wikipedia as gospel. Even if the police or potential employers see the vandalism during the two hours it’s up, they won’t believe it. Also, I think leetlol’s edit was changing JB’s name to ‘Paula Abdul.’ I don’t think that would hurt JB, Forumwarz, or Paula Abdul.
The other really, really stupid thing about this rule is that banning them here is supposed to stop vandalism…over there…I don’t get how that works. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 9:28PM | View PhineasPoe's Profile | # | ||||||
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PhineasPoe Posted:
If anything one would think it would cause them to vandalize more in a drunken fit of rage over such a ban. I think that the fwz wikipedia is very lucky that leetlol is such a kind and caring person. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 9:36PM | View duca's Profile | # | ||||||
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To be honest this is an awful rule. Libel, is a legit reason to ban someone. This though, is wrong. From such a smart and relaxed site.. its sorta disappointing. Crotch Zombie is not losing money because of this, its losing it for other reasons.
One of the more reasons Raepdog is gone. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 10:10PM | View Raepdog's Profile | # | ||||||
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nTerra Posted:
Well I do like to function similarly to what a dildo’s usually used for. So it’s not totally untrue.
Oh, and my ex-mod mind is also wondering about this thread title and wants to change it. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 10:49PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
Better? |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 10:56PM | View PhineasPoe's Profile | # | ||||||
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All forumwarz bull**** aside, I don’t think that community and/or “drama” fall under wikipedia content standards. Internal wiki, sure. But Wikipedia.com? No way. As a good rule of thumb take a look at other websites wikipedia entries. YTMND.com for example, has a section on conflicts, but thats not internal userbase conflicts, that’s real companies threatening lawsuits and such.
A more apt comparison would be Kingdom of Loathings wiki article. There is a community section, but really it just gives a general overview of the userbase. I think it’s a very special section and I might put it up for review if I gave a ****. Even still, no opinionated stances, no drama logs, etc.
BLAH BLAH BLAH TLLog in to see images! |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 10:57PM | View aSh-gangSTA-685's Profile | # | ||||||
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PhineasPoe Posted:
imo yes. Log in to see images!
But I’m often in the minority on things like that Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 10:57PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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PhineasPoe Posted:
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 11:07PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
Any complaints about Forumwarz would need to be cite-able, and since forums are off limits as a legitimate source almost anything pertaining to Flamebait can’t be included. Just plain criticism sections would also be NPOV’d as well.
As far as the rule goes…it’s stupid. First off, a ban here isn’t really going to do much. Second, Wikipedia polices itself. Thirdly, it’s generally accepted that people don’t edit articles about themselves because it’ll be seen as biased – this is a step or two away from that, but is a bit close for comfort. |
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Posted On: 10/25/2009 11:51PM | View mterek's Profile | # | ||||||
I don’t know guys. I remember how depressed Bootyhole was after he read the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on Forumwarz. Maybe there is more reasons for this that you guys are considering? |
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Posted On: 10/26/2009 12:21AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
was Posted:
Why?
Because Re-Re’s were called the ultimate clbum? |
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Posted On: 10/26/2009 12:27AM | View mterek's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 10/26/2009 12:42AM | View Celerysteve's Profile | # | ||||||
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That rule is ridiculous in so many ways i can’t even think of where to start. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2009 1:28AM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||