There’s really no point in try to block image spam by limiting images to 5 w/ no same images if someone can just post 80,000 Log in to see images! I say either do away with the rule entirely or limit emoticons too. There’s no reason anybody needs to use more than 10 or 20 emoticons in a post.

Possibly a Cabbage Posted:

if you feel like being a male reproductive organ in the RP forums.

Wait wait wait.

First you (the generic you, not just the cabbage), want to open up the RP section to allow for more trolling by removing the restrictions on Stickies.

Then you want to ADD restrictions to the RP section by limiting what can be posted everywhere in it.

Please, someone, explain to me what the community wants. Because now I’m really, really confused.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Please, someone, explain to me what the community wants. Because now I’m really, really confused.

Not having to sift through tons and tons of image spam.

The whole sticky thing is because there are RP threads, that have been stickied solely for the purpose of removing trolling from the thread.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Wait wait wait.

First you (the generic you, not just the cabbage), want to open up the RP section to allow for more trolling by removing the restrictions on Stickies.

Then you want to ADD restrictions to the RP section by limiting what can be posted everywhere in it.

Please, someone, explain to me what the community wants. Because now I’m really, really confused.

My objection on the stickies thing is that “it is a bad idea to have different rules apply to different threads in the same forum”, particularly when the only thing that differentiates a protected thread from an unprotected thread is “a moderator decided he or she likes it.” Allow a specific avenue of trolling, or not, but just make it so every thread in a given forum follows the same rules.

The current system would be like having there be a limit of 10 emoticons per post in any thread that I created, and no limit on emoticons in any thread that you created, because ET decided he wanted it to be that way because he likes you more than me.

I wouldn’t be unhappy if you couldn’t post emoticons or images at all, anywhere on flamebate (or “no images in the hacker forum” or “no images in RP” or whatever), provided that the rule was enforced equally.

MC Banhammer Posted:

So to remove rules which prevent trolling, got it.

Thanks for making my point.

She gave you her opinion up front, then provided some additional supporting information. That was pretty obvious.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Please, someone, explain to me what the community wants. Because now I’m really, really confused.

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scullyangel Posted:

I believe people are annoyed by the lack of consistency in both the rules and moderation, as well as the seemingly random things that are chosen to be enforced with an iron fist.

Question on this: Have you found that the inconsistency increased with the addition of 5 new mods, or was the inconsistency there before that?

Because if everything could be solved by making sure all the mods are on the same page, that’s theoretically much easier than changing and changing the rules.

No slam against the new mods, seriously. I’m just curious what the community perception is. (It’s natural for 7 people to have 7 different opinions.)

MC Banhammer Posted:

Question on this: Have you found that the inconsistency increased with the addition of 5 new mods, or was the inconsistency there before that?

Because if everything could be solved by making sure all the mods are on the same page, that’s theoretically much easier than changing and changing the rules.

No slam against the new mods, seriously. I’m just curious what the community perception is. (It’s natural for 7 people to have 7 different opinions.)

I can only say what I’ve perceived. There has always been inconsistency, but of course it is more noticeable with the increase in mods. Some mods obviously address only what is reported, some obviously hunt for things. Some look at idc very differently than others.

I don’t think anyone expects all the rules to be changed. Despite what goes on with the players who push the border, I think most are smart enough to get that a pure free for all would not only kill the site, but also eliminate some of their fun. (It’s not as interesting to post photo shopped goatse to see if it sneaks by if you are allowed to post the unedited version and more.)

Are you honestly confused about why the community gets up in arms when we see certain things happen? When certain violations are met with instant punishment and others are brushed under the rug? I can make a list of the players who will in fact not be given the benefit of the doubt should they do something borderline that another player would get away with.

Yes, it is a very human response to say, “They are always a jackbum, of course they are being a jackbum.” Still, don’t you think the mod team would get a heck of a lot less grief if player a and player b both received the same punishment for the same violation? Don’t you think there would be less angst if players were made aware of what the punishments would be for violation of rules? There was a thread in klan **** You asking Nicco what the ban lengths for certain things would be. Almost none of the answers were definite. There was a lot of “probably this or maybe this.” If the mods can’t answer the question that is a pretty good indication that selective modding and unfair harshness or leniency is absolutely happening. It is impossible for it to be fair because a good portion of things are left to the discretion of whichever mod stumbles onto it.

Right now we have pretend rules that people should infer due to the “spirit” of things, 7 mods and 3 admins with different views on how rules should be interpreted and punished and a rule that says if a mod feels like it then that is ok, too. All this on a site that encourages rp, trolling and recently held a sanctioned contest encouraging the population to go practice trolling the **** out of people. Seriously, the dual message of trolling is funny as **** please don’t do it, is wacky as hell.

I don’t know, it makes no sense for me to type out a detailed “what I would do” thing. I am notoriously wordy, full of opinion and can generally tell you exactly what I would do. It seldom matters as I don’t make the rules.

tl;dr: Getting the mods all on the same page is important. Clarifying rules and putting them somewhere reasonable with notifications about updates so that people aren’t banned for things they didn’t know were wrong, also a good idea.

Tubmail.

MC Banhammer Posted:

...the policy I’d been working under?

Maybe the community would get off your back if you were to publicly post this policy Log in to see images!