Hmm. Well, I’ve never caused a suicide, but I’ve been on a forum when someone did it and of course everyone talked about it. Saw the video, up until cops busted in and covered the camera. It ruined my day, and then afterward I thought it was kind of funny. So I reckon that’s about what would happen if I caused it, although I might feel bad for a bit longer.

I never quite understood suicides.

If you no longer fear death, you could do things that are all kinds of awesome.

Lord Boxtop Posted:

You do realize that these “options” don’t always work and that some of these people are in situations that make it difficult to find help, right?

Public PayPhone + 1-800-273-TALK = Help

I was referring to those that don’t bother to seek help at all, not those for whom the ‘treatments’ don’t work.

I’d probably laugh a little bit. That’s just me though.

____ Posted:

If you no longer fear death, you could do things that are all kinds of awesome.

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

you guys who say you don’t care are horrible. i mean even if it’s someone you don’t like, the amount of pain and torment that person must have been feeling to want to end their life is very sad.

Sergeant Cid Posted:

Public PayPhone + 1-800-273-TALK = Help

I’ve just seen too many ‘suicidal claims’ by people that have really never been in significantly stressful situations and are simply attention whoring. So, in a way, it’s kind of the fault of the ‘fakers’, because they desensitize the rest of us to the real situations. But like I said, the real situations always have options, and if they choose to take them, then they should receive as much support as they need. For the ones that refuse to seek help, and decide that’s the path the want to follow, then that’s their choice.

If it’s someone I know, I’ll go out of my way to intervene, but some random stranger? Probably not. Not unless I’m convinced that the threat is real, and even then, I’d still probably tell them to call the hotline first. If they refuse to do so, then I’d simply bumume their attention whoring.

Sergeant Cid Posted:

I’ve just seen too many ‘suicidal claims’ by people that have really never been in significantly stressful situations and are simply attention whoring. So, in a way, it’s kind of the fault of the ‘fakers’, because they desensitize the rest of us to the real situations. But like I said, the real situations always have options, and if they choose to take them, then they should receive as much support as they need. For the ones that refuse to seek help, and decide that’s the path the want to follow, then that’s their choice.

If it’s someone I know, I’ll go out of my way to intervene, but some random stranger? Probably not. Not unless I’m convinced that the threat is real, and even then, I’d still probably tell them to call the hotline first. If they refuse to do so, then I’d simply bumume their attention whoring.

true dat. it’s easy to attention whore online and that makes the difference between real problems and attention seekers a challenge. though you’re right that the internet is not a good place to look when you need help.

i have issues with compbumion for things that i would be better off neutral over.

Fortunato Posted:

Killing yourself is one of two things: a desperate bid for attention or a sign that you have problems that need working through with someone else irl. The internet is just about the worst place you can come if you’re really having suicidal thoughts. Although I wouldn’t exactly be happy about it, I certainly wouldn’t be sympathetic.

This. Ideally, people ought to be more sensitive to things like not going above and beyond to cause someone to commit suicide, but it’s really ultimately the suicidal person’s responsibility (and to a lesser extent, the people around him/her) to make good judgements – and going on the internet is generally not a good judgement call. Personally, I always think suicide encouragement is over the line (at least, my personal line) as far as trolling/flaming goes, but if someone was being a total male reproductive organ I might consider it.

Which is why… I’d feel bad if someone killed themselves because someone told them to do it and it was clearly not warranted, but I’d feel significantly less bad if it was someone who was asking for it. But either way, they shouldn’t have been anywhere near an internet forum, so… meh.

Having dealt with suicidal tendencies myself, I can say with some certainty that it is possible to get out of those moments of weakness (or obviously I wouldn’t be posting this right now) but it does take some wherewithal to acknowledge the problems that cause these feelings, and to put yourself in a position where you can’t hurt yourself out of pbumion. There is no reason to actually go through with it, especially not because an internet post triggers something.

And honestly, how hurtful could it possibly be for a stranger to tell you to go die? Really.

If you’re depressed to the point of suicide, you’re probably beyond being able to enjoy doing anything before you off yourself… if you were still functioning normally enough to enjoy doing cool stuff then you wouldn’t be suicidal in the first place.

Unless your reasons for suicide were non-emotional… maybe you’ve been dishonoured and need to commit ritual suicide to redeem yourself, but those are rarer cases.