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Poll Klan raiding
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Colonel Bear

Avatar: 68748 Mon May 18 15:38:07 -0400 2009
13

[Very Busy Klan]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Poll change, say what?

Shouldn’t 7vd be getting a peen for most awesome clan?

2 scoops = Most fabulous persony clan

Colonel Bear edited this message on 12/12/2008 3:50PM

FalconFour

Avatar: 69421 Wed Aug 12 05:13:59 -0400 2009
6

Level 35 Troll

Minty Fresh

Totally ****ing signed. I figured klans already would get something for pwnage that epic.

Log in to see images!

Seriously, wtf? No extra levels?! What the hell is the point of not “tickling” 12 then?

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

and soloers too for pwning 8 forums

Colonel Bear

Avatar: 68748 Mon May 18 15:38:07 -0400 2009
13

[Very Busy Klan]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

The problem is now we can’t dip below twelve!

C’mon everybody! Steal our forums! We dare you to! Log in to see images!

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

I’ll use an alt to push down forums

FalconFour

Avatar: 69421 Wed Aug 12 05:13:59 -0400 2009
6

Level 35 Troll

Minty Fresh

People voting “no” are just people that don’t like how awesome 7VD is.

Seriously.

elenaratelim-
it

Avatar: 24791 2010-03-21 18:12:06 -0400
17

[Team Shortbus]

Level 44 Troll

chica bonita

23 forums pwned…. That’s about 11 klan vanilla missed by going up that high instead of waiting (due to not being organized). Yet 2 scoops for hitting 24 is a good thing…

Smart.

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
20

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Troll

KYOUBAI IS SUPER-SERIOUS BUSINESS

elenaratelimit Posted:

23 forums pwned…. That’s about 11 klan vanilla missed by going up that high instead of waiting (due to not being organized). Yet 2 scoops for hitting 24 is a good thing…

Smart.

Organize two raids a week with approximately 14 people each Raid. If you’re lucky, you get about 155 Vanilla Scoops per raid, or about 300 Vanilla Scoops per week. This requires a skilled Controller (like Lust) and more than a dozen players that are dedicated enough to stay 95% focused for the two hour duration of most raids, twice per week. And the only people that earn scoops from that are the people that actually sign up for the raid, and everyone has to be available at the exact same time. So, you have a total of four hours of scoop earnings.

The 7VD method is 24/7. You could almost write a script to automate it. By simply starting Raids constantly and signing up for them (which any Klan Member can do, since everyone is an Officer), the normal, natural progression of individuals pwning forums results in Vanilla scoops. And lots of them. I’ve been in a Klan that stay focused on Dom raids, and I earned more Vanilla this week than I ever did in that Klan.

You comment that 11 forum visits were wasted in the above example. I submit to you that those forum visits (along with many others) would never have been used by those players in an organized Raid in the first place. The Pbumive Raiding method earns about 4-8 Scoops per hour on average. If a player simply signs up for whatever Raid is active when they log on, and simply checks in every few hours to resign up for the new Raids, then if they did that 4-5 times a day (taking about 1-2 minutes to log on or tab over, and click a single link), they could easily earn about 280+ scoops. Now, add in the fact that that player can also use their weekly visits to run Solo Vanilla Raids for about 140+ scoops, and that they can run that Solo Raid whenever it’s convenient for them, and you finally see the advantage.

For hardcore, dedicated players, if they can coordinate properly with a sufficient number of like-minded players, then twice a week they can run their Klan Raids, and get a lot of Vanilla.

For relaxed, laid-back players, so long as they simply click a link regularly in the game, they can run their Solo Raids when they feel like it, and still benefit from Klan Vanilla.

Both methods generate a lot of scoops. Both are valid methods of acquisition. Having played by both methods, I can see their merits,and it’s really more about a personal play-style difference.

You either need a small number of serious players or a large mob of laid-back players. Either method works.

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
24

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

I NEVER LEFT FORUMWARZ

I don’t think that it makes sense to reward klans for having 24 forums pwned. The sense of klan raiding is that you need some kind of coordination, but that would just reward the largest klans and that’s not what vanilla scoops are intended to be.

PS: I don’t have a male reproductive organ, but I enjoy getting drunk Log in to see images!

FalCoN was banned for this post by Evil Trout

FalCoN edited this message on 07/23/2009 2:25PM

Doctor Whom

Avatar: 90155 Sun Nov 23 20:45:54 -0500 2008
5

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

FalCoN Posted:

suck my male reproductive organ

(not trolling, please don’t ban me)

How is this not Trolling??

Endedrural

Avatar: 36629 Fri Oct 24 22:53:46 -0400 2008
16

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Largehardoncollider Posted:

Shouldn’t 7vd be getting something when we pwn 24 forums at once?

That’s not how raiding works. You get a vanilla scoop when your klan hits twelve. It’s hard to control how many forums you have pwned with a large klan, but that’s just one of the drawbacks of having such a large klan. Get over it or join a smaller klan.

Czarnian bum-
bumin

Avatar: 43648 Fri Dec 05 19:45:05 -0500 2008
9

[Bigguyinblack Fan -
Club
]

Level 35 Emo Kid

"He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it."

Endedrural Posted:

That’s not how raiding works. You get a vanilla scoop when your klan hits twelve. It’s hard to control how many forums you have pwned with a large klan, but that’s just one of the drawbacks of having such a large klan. Get over it or join a smaller klan.

Why get over it? We’ve found a way to maximize the system without the necessity of large-scale organization.

Pbumive Vanilla Raids are fun & easy.

FalconFour

Avatar: 69421 Wed Aug 12 05:13:59 -0400 2009
6

Level 35 Troll

Minty Fresh

Endedrural Posted:

Get over it or join a smaller klan.

Look who’s talking.

The issue is that there should be an incentive to actually TRY to get more than just “tickling 12” (getting 12, 11, 12, 11, 12, etc… ). It should be an incentive to say, get 12… 16… 20… 24… 28… and scoops for each, maybe even make “tickling” impossible (say, like doing pistachio streaking).

Unless of course you’re one of those “i would rationalize the game being perfectly well-working even if the server was only online for 5 minutes a day” kind of guys…

edit: and there’s that ****ing wink bug again

FalconFour edited this message on 12/11/2008 9:35AM

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

Seriously I think vanilla scoops should be awarded proportionally to the number of forums pwned. Because it’s more like an achievement. Fixing it to a small number is illogical and stupid.

Fran

Avatar: 34789 2015-08-06 21:23:09 -0400
40

[A Beautiful Place -
Out in the Country
]

Level 62 Camwhore

I wonder who is the bumbling idiot that still has fake currency on this website and actually spends

quangntenemy Posted:

Seriously I think vanilla scoops should be awarded proportionally to the number of forums pwned. Because it’s more like an achievement. Fixing it to a small number is illogical and stupid.

IMO, fixing it to a small number is something to have room for error.

Raiding is not hard, but really, I like the 12 limit as it is. You have room for error if you’re trying seriously (IE organized raids). If there’s no room for error and you get scoops proportional to how many forums you got, where’s the incentive to raid seriously?

Endedrural

Avatar: 36629 Fri Oct 24 22:53:46 -0400 2008
16

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

FalconFour Posted:

Look who’s talking.

The issue is that there should be an incentive to…

I’m not complaining though, am I?

Colonel Bear

Avatar: 68748 Mon May 18 15:38:07 -0400 2009
13

[Very Busy Klan]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

But a new strategy for pbumive raiding, designated alts can pwn forums to bring the klans forums count back down.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

Fran Posted:

IMO, fixing it to a small number is something to have room for error.

Raiding is not hard, but really, I like the 12 limit as it is. You have room for error if you’re trying seriously (IE organized raids). If there’s no room for error and you get scoops proportional to how many forums you got, where’s the incentive to raid seriously?

There’s no error. With so many forums seizing 12 forums is **** easy. I can even do it in 1 solo run.

Fran

Avatar: 34789 2015-08-06 21:23:09 -0400
40

[A Beautiful Place -
Out in the Country
]

Level 62 Camwhore

I wonder who is the bumbling idiot that still has fake currency on this website and actually spends

quangntenemy Posted:

There’s no error. With so many forums seizing 12 forums is **** easy. I can even do it in 1 solo run.

You never raided seriously, then.

There’s time where you can fall from 12 to 11, 10 or even 9, without interruption on a single round, depending on how’s the turnover. And that’s only with natural turnover. Interruption can make things even worse. 12 is a good room, as it is.

Aldo_Anything

MODERATOR
Avatar: 32555 2014-07-18 11:39:53 -0400
98

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

male reproductive organMEISTER

If you have so many klan members, you could raid for hours or on several days a week. I’d give you two vanilla scoops for dominating all forums

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