No. No changes yet. There hasn’t been enough time for data collection, so ANY changes would be premature.

My advice is to go to the hacker forums and work-out a balanced spec for taking on powerful forums, and then for spend your visits hitting forums that are at or below your level. That will provide the most accurate and reliable information to ET as fast as possible, and result in the shortest possible time spent nerfed.

I’ve been asking for harder forums for quite awhile now, and now we’ll FINALLY get to see people speccing out sensibly instead of going bat**** very special on offense. NOW the balancing can REALLY begin. \o/

BaconSupreme Posted:

Every other non-challenge clbum gets two 200+ attacks with a refresh of 1. Our only 200+ attack is ipz, which has a refresh of ****ing 6.

Don’t forget that the Emo’s two top attacks also gets bonus when low on hp, so they are actually even higher.

Well, i can now prove how fail the nerfs are. After the all the attacks damaged were reduced by like 200% and costs doubled, as well as the forum buffs, the only way to beat them was to use haxlrose and turn almost all the offense boots in ego. Only way to beat forums now is to have over 9000 (well, over 5000) ego to survive attacks and just use the garbage hacker attacks while waiting for the best attack (ophelias poetry and recipes for disaster) to refresh. The forum grinds have just become longer and IMO, the offense and defence attributes have completely gone out of the window. This should be changed.

Lemon sherbets ;_;

And is this Recipe’s for Disaster Ep II stuff?

In all this talk about balancing the damage one clbum can do compared to another, I think there’s one point no one’s brought up that’s just plain screwy. ET said in another topic on the 25th:

You guys might be surprised to find that from a pure damage standpoint, camwhores and hackers and emo kids are now EVEN, closer than they’ve ever been.

This is simply based on averages pulled since yesterday. There is no math to screw up beyond that.

Trolls do about 30% more damage right now by the looks of things, so they’ll be nerfed next, but less drastically than before.

There being even between Camwhores, Emo Kids and Hackers is put forth as the ideal, despite the fact they have wildly different Offense capabilities. My Hacker currently has 153 Offense, my Camwhore about 112 when equipped at the loss of other stats, and from what I’m hearing Emo Kids around 90-some, and yet they’re all supposed to do the same amount of damage. With ipz at 6 refresh, my Hacker does about the same as my Camwhore can every other turn with Fetish Pics—then the attack my Hacker can use every other turn does about half the damage, or a third of what a Troll can do every other turn.

It seems to me that what ET should have done was calculate the damages for equal Offense statistics across clbumes—say, 100—and set the damage from there, because, as it is, having over one and a half times the Offense of a Troll means a Hacker can do less than half the damage per turn.

Sweet, now I need tons of consumables just to beat Suburban Gangstas, let alone Dykea and Second Wife. This is awesomely tedious. Thanks ET!

Really what Hackers need is something other than conventional attacks, which are amusing to look at but are not very effective compared to those of other (non noob) clbumes. I know that during Episode 2 design there was talk of having Hacker attacks do damage over time (like how the endopatch heals you, but the other way around), but that didn’t make it into the final package. Adding am “attacks continue to do damage after the turn in which they’re used” ability to at least some of the Hacker attacks would both serve to make the clbum less weak and more interesting. I mean, other clbumes at least have multiple skill trees. Hackers deserve something more than vandalism hax.

BaconSupreme Posted:

That’s your damn fault. Don’t try to pwn level 30-something forums with a level 20-something hacker without expecting gigantic offense debuffs.

Really, it’s my fault that things were buffed up with absolutely no warning unless you frequently check the Twitter feed?

How dumb of me to expect some sort of announcement about that.

Healbot Posted:

Yes, just don’t blame yourself, you beautiful unique snowflake.

How could I possibly expect something game-changing to be announced somewhere besides the Twitter that maybe 80 people check? You’re right, not like that would be good game design or anything.

Makes me glad I capped my Hacker a while ago.

I was wondering why I was hitting 2.6k, and wasn’t hitting 3.6k with IPz today, until I checked the attack power. I can sort of understand the lowering of the attack power of a couple of the attacks, but raising their costs when Proc. is DAMN hard to get without sacrificing much-needed Offensive power was uncalled for. I’m using nearly a tenth of my Proc for each Avtr. It’s a good thing I’m not trying to take on higher forums either, I’ve only got like 1900 Ego. -.-