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this has probably been asked before but it’s a known fact that there are users that post/lurk that are under the age of 18, so i’m curious as to the legality of letting users post porn, nude photography and shock without an “i am 18 years of older and am able to see to illicit images” warning and agreement.
for all i know it’s in your ToC or there’s some legal loophole but i am curious, so any answer is appreciated
also i understand having a warning would be moot because i have been seeing those things since i was 12 and it never stopped me from clicking on them, but meh |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 12:35PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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It pretty much boils down to the point that it isn’t a PG13 board(OR IS IT?!??!) and as such, they are taking our word and we are responsible for any possible permanent brain scarring. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 1:12PM | View Aurum's Profile | # | ||||||
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Aurum Posted:
notice how this said legality, not morality. i don’t care that it’s posted and that kids see it, i’m wondering what national and international laws have to say about it. most sites have a warning page as i mentioned or a bold header stating “we are not responsible for the content posted here; by viewing or posting, you verify you are 18 years of age or above”.
if you don’t have any immediate warning of questionable or adult material, to my knowledge, it’s illegal to present it then, even though a site can’t really be held accountable for what a user posts
tl;dr someone who’s username i actually know/a mod answer this tia |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 1:24PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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megazeroexe Posted:
This site has one of those, too. Remember typing ‘I am not easily offended’? That was where the warning was. I’m sure this has been dealt with before, I just can’t remember when and can’t be bothered to look for it. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 2:06PM | View Count_Smurf's Profile | # | ||||||
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i honestly do not remember typing that haha
but also, that’s still morality; saying ‘i am not easily offended’ isn’t the same thing as saying ‘i am 18 and can legally view pornography’. pictures that have swastikas and dead jews on it is offensive (to most i bumume) but it’s not illegal for a child to see.
so still no answer on the legality Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 2:13PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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I guess it’s as legal as the sites from where the porno/shock is taken, considering those are open to children as well. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 2:19PM | View Aurum's Profile | # | ||||||
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they also give the government and the law a big **** you by saying “you must be 18 years or older to view this page” somewhere in the fine print at the bottom, or just blatant to make it even more interesting
again someone who actually understands law and what i’m asking answer please |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 2:25PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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there was something that explained that in the blog.. but that’s broken so idk |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 3:02PM | View SanDyk's Profile | # | ||||||
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the internet is for porn “sorry kate” the internet is for porn “i masturbate!”
so grab your male reproductive organ and double click for porn porn porn |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 3:03PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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It’s not a legal requirement to have the disclaimer or warning. Many websites do so, in order to have an added layer of protection against any complaints, but even such a warning page has not been ruled to be an iron-clad defense against complaints.
Secondly, in regards to posting such material, that’s a separate event from someone viewing the material. The warning page to which you refer is actually more of a declaration page by the viewer/websurfer, in that they are stating that they are above a certain age and that such content does not violate their local community standards. So long as the person uploading the content met those requirements, they’ve done nothing wrong, since they cannot control the actions of the viewer. Also, simply providing a ‘storage place’ for such content is not illegal, so long as the owner of the storage place meets the above standards as well. If both the owner & uploader are within those legal standards, the only possible violator is the under-age viewer. Sergeant Cid edited this message on 08/20/2010 6:29PM |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 6:28PM | View Sergeant Cid's Profile | # | ||||||
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So what do you do when you know the viewer is underage? Adapt edited this message on 08/20/2010 6:35PM |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 6:35PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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Adapt Posted:
What would you suggest? |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 7:24PM | View Sergeant Cid's Profile | # | ||||||
I would imagine that telling the childish adults apart from the children who pretend to be adults would be a full time job. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 7:34PM | View Caesius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hey guys, I’m pretty sure ET already addressed this the last time somebody had a fake-o “think of the children”/”rile people up and try to scare the admins into making rules” series of careposts. I believe it’s on the blog that it’s fine for users accessing forumwarz to be under 18. I’d link it, but the blog’s down. In the meantime, if you’re under 18 and you’re personally uncomfortable with viewing adult content on forumwarz, you can probably find a mod to ban you. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 7:41PM | View plk's Profile | # | ||||||
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this thread just turned into a big herp fest
i’m not even trying to make new rules because there’s no members around to follow them, i am just curious on the laws that apply to this. if you don’t say “warning this contains pornography” and a child goes onto the site without the intention or even the awareness that they may see pornography, i don’t see how it’s legal. case in point, alvin greene’s current felony case:
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misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent
i don’t understand how this applies any differently on forumwarz, especially when it’s a minor, making it a felony in the united states
i don’t ever remember specifically agreeing and consenting to viewing pornography or nudity in any RP board either, or having the site/the RP section of the site declared 18+, or being provided with a copy of the site’s ToC that says ‘by signing up you consent that you are 18 and can legally view pornography” megazeroexe edited this message on 08/20/2010 8:07PM |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:07PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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Sergeant Cid Posted:Ban everyone. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:09PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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another thing: who cares if the kids are uncomfortable with seeing it, this is a civil discussion about the laws that apply to the site and the game, i made that clear in my first two posts in this thread. i get that no 16 year old kid has a problem with seeing a naked women or said woman getting crammed for lack of a better word, but that doesn’t make it legal to make it available to them without affirming they are 18 (and yes, it’s illegal to click “i am 18” when you aren’t but that doesn’t stop 99% of middle school boys and up) |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:10PM | View megazeroexe's Profile | # | ||||||
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Everybody. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:10PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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ALL THE BODIES. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:11PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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If you’re that concerned (and I don’t believe you are), maybe you should consult a lawyer rather than pretend to ask the posters here or pretend that you really care about getting some official response. The site is up and it’s obviously okay for people under 18 to be here. That gives you all the info you really need to know. |
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Posted On: 08/20/2010 8:12PM | View plk's Profile | # | ||||||