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i don’t even get what you guys what. are you saying goverment healthcare is good or that you want something independent?

Any subsidized, centralized health-care entity is good. It could be a federal department, or a government sponsored monopoly like the Post Office, but so long as the profit motive is taken away people won’t get their coverage dropped.

This bill spends a lot more than it has to, and taxes the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

For example, ‘health care companies’ are one of the major sources of tax revenue for it. How much they pay for Obamacare is directly tied to their R&D expenditures, meaning the more corporations invest in future methods for improving quality of health care, the more they get taxed to pay for current health care. This is a huge disincentive to invest in R&D and stagnates the quality of HC in the long run.

Not just that, ‘health care companies’ is an all-inclusive term for any corporation that produces biomedical related technology – whether they produce reagents, instruments, or supplies (like test tubes). Meaning, more than just the evil pharmaceutical giants are going to get taxed, smaller niche but no less important companies are going to get taxed equal to their R&D expenditures.

Pfizer can afford this. It invests in like 100 different pharmaceuticals, of which like 6 make it past the FDA clearance every three-five years, releases the products for a short period of time until side effect lawsuits force them to recall it. During this time, Pfizer makes TONS of money, far more than it invested in R&D and less than it would lose in suits.

Other companies can’t do this and have more narrow profit margins. Taxing them based on R&D basically dooms them to bankruptcy because they can never improve their products. Either that, or they outsource overseas, which is going to impact middle clbum employment.

so i guess what you are saying is you have a problem w/ the way it is taxed.

1337xxxxxxxxxlolololololololololxxxxxxxxx1337 Posted:

My dad said so too!

Also, my dad happens to be a racist!

ARE THE TWO CONNECTED IN SOME WAY…....?

i would say so lol

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so i guess what you are saying is you have a problem w/ the way it is taxed.

p much.

lol america

Yes, you’re all right this is a good idea. I hate having the choice to pay for something or not. It’s way batter when the government takes away that choice. I wish they would come tell me how to live my life in every aspect, because when nobody has any rights then we’ll all be equal. It’s not like this is an indicator of things to come. It’s not like Obama forced this very unpopular bill through with every underhanded means available to him… All we need now is another 9/11 (aka Reichstag) to increase fear for their safety in the public and the uneducated (by corporate design) mbumes will agree to suspend elections and we can all bow to our new dictator and become a 3rd world country under martial law.

Chawin Posted:

lol america

Public sector currently makes up 52.5% of the economy in the UK, and 40% in the US. Once we get to 100% I think that means we’re communists.

revrent Posted:

Government Health care is the road to fascism/communism/the antichrist until you hit 65, then by golly the government better keep their hands off of my Medicare.

Interesting Blog Link http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/08/life-expectancy-higher-in-us-than-uk-at.html

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Rev

That blog is interesting in that it seems to think the UK is the sole place that has nationalized healthcare.

Or maybe that the UK is the only country that exists in Europe anymore.

A million person like this!

Hahaha ,links?