It’s not a rocket science for anyone that 50% forumbuildr submissions are those made in first 1-2 hours after rollover. This fact puts all non-American builders into kinda unfair position. Could we make rollover time for forumbuildr shift every week (similar to proposed for Domination)?

Alternative.

We could implement the “pre-post” engine on Sundays: I spend (half of*) my next week submissions on Sunday, and they come into life immediately after Monday rollover with the new buildr forum.

* – half instead of full quantity could fix the possible problems with someone’s buildr score going negative.

I agree with the OP.

By the time I log in on Monday morning to submit some stuff to Forumbuildr, the top entries are already on +10 or even +15. If my submissions are very slightly better than those, they’ll still finish the week on a lower score.

This is especially true because of the rather bizarre “random” way that entries are shown to future voters – that entry which is already on +15 is more likely to be shown to potential voters than mine, which makes it easier for it to get even more upvotes.

Grayson81 Posted:

By the time I log in on Monday morning to submit some stuff to Forumbuildr, the top entries are already on +10 or even +15. If my submissions are very slightly better than those, they’ll still finish the week on a lower score.

This is especially true because of the rather bizarre “random” way that entries are shown to future voters – that entry which is already on +15 is more likely to be shown to potential voters than mine, which makes it easier for it to get even more upvotes.

This. Especially the “random” part.

Aldo: I get 100+ chocos each week. The problem is this is simply not fair.

Grayson81 Posted:

I agree with the OP.

By the time I log in on Monday morning to submit some stuff to Forumbuildr, the top entries are already on +10 or even +15. If my submissions are very slightly better than those, they’ll still finish the week on a lower score.

This is especially true because of the rather bizarre “random” way that entries are shown to future voters – that entry which is already on +15 is more likely to be shown to potential voters than mine, which makes it easier for it to get even more upvotes.

You get Alpha almost every single week, Grayson. Don’t give me that.

If anything, we need to keep you from submitting as long as possible to give other people a sporting chance. >-> Think of it as a handicap on those of us not as incredibly good at Buildr.

Premature submitting would generate absolute nonsense if there’s a late overtake in the ideas category which has happened in the past. But I don’t see what’s against a 24h submission period preceding any voting.

Grayson81 Posted:

I agree with the OP.

By the time I log in on Monday morning to submit some stuff to Forumbuildr, the top entries are already on +10 or even +15. If my submissions are very slightly better than those, they’ll still finish the week on a lower score.

This is especially true because of the rather bizarre “random” way that entries are shown to future voters – that entry which is already on +15 is more likely to be shown to potential voters than mine, which makes it easier for it to get even more upvotes.

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4 Thread Titles (Winning the Cool Threads, Man E-Peen)

2 Typical Posts (Winning the Master of Inanity E-Peen, which Iconnu won as well)

2 Angry Replies

Total Builder Score: 8 (More than any other player this week, thereby winning the Forumbuildr ALPHA E-Peen)

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that waiting until Monday morning to make your submissions is not hurting you at all.

TL;DR – You can’t really complain about the current system when you are winning under the current system.

I’ve submitted things on Monday night and they’ve been included. I don’t think submitting on Sunday night first thing gives you that much of an advantage. True, you get up there first, but I’ve noticed a lot more downvoting tends to go on on Sundays.

But there are some categories, like threads, where it is especcially important to get entries in early. I’ve noticed that that is one place where it is difficult to get anything in if you don’t submit early on.

Also,

Easter Bunny Posted:

Provide some actual data to support these claims, and then we can have a relevant discussion. When the OP is complaining about rollover time, and also states that he gets 100+ chocolate a week, there’s a definite contradiction there.

Actual data to support which claims?

ShadyPixels Posted:

I think I put in a winning thread title on Wednesday, the other two I got were on Tuesday…

So really this isn’t that much of an issue, I think the quality of the submission is more important than the timing.

Truthfully, its both. Late ideas sometimes make it, and sometimes good ideas never get a chance. I don’t think anyone can really discount the effects of either of these two factors. (quality vs. timing)

I don’t really like the change for Dom either.

Screwing over the majority of the players to cater to a small foreign subgroup doesn’t make much sense.

EDIT: Also, the last hour of dom matters about 100 times more than the first hour of Buildr.