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Shock You have a 1 in 3 chance of winning for reals. (That's a third for all you mathmaticians out there)

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Megaspel Posted:

Chances are you won’t win more than 3BP. Alts not allowed.

And this modification to your original rules is one critical flaw. You have no way of determining which characters belong to which players.

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

Black Dragon Posted:

And this modification to your original rules is one critical flaw. You have no way of determining which characters belong to which players.

Noone will recieve more than 3BP anyway and each alt would have to contribute 1BP so they would only get their investment back, max.

This is a sensible suggestion, I’ll add one more rule to prevent this, before anyone has entered.

Megaspel edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:23AM

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Posting a link to the Forum Rules for you and Reporting your post is not mini-modding.

And as another player pointed out, this contest can too easily be rigged by you via collusion.

Celerysteve

Avatar: 61989 2011-12-28 11:21:37 -0500
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[Temple of the Anth-
ropomorphic Majesty
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Level 35 Troll

Right from the moment when I saw Saw, I laughed.

You can’t make a contest requesting BP and you can’t flame in non-RP. You’re probably going to get permabanned unless you edit all that out.

Celerysteve edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:25AM

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

Black Dragon Posted:

Posting a link to the Forum Rules for you and Reporting your post is not mini-modding.

And as another player pointed out, this contest can too easily be rigged by you via collusion.

So can every other contest, you’re just accusing me of cheating now without any evidence.

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

fart

Megaspel edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:33AM

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
10

[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Megaspel Posted:

Noone will recieve more than 3BP anyway and each alt would have to contribute 1BP so they would only get their investment back, max.

This is a sensible suggestion, I’ll add one more rule to prevent this, before anyone has entered.

I disagree with your analysis.

If 15 people enter this contest, and the three-alt player picked each number once, and all the other players picked 1 & 2, and the number was 3, then the single player wins 15 BP for spending 3.

Additionally, since we have only your word that BP was sent to you by each player, and there’s no way for us to know if any contestants entering the contest are friends of yours conspiring together, the possibility of manipulating this contest behind the scenes is too great.

I do not believe this contest should be allowed unless there is direct Moderator intervention and overview. It is too prone to potential abuse.

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Megaspel Posted:

So can every other contest, you’re just accusing me of cheating now without any evidence.

Incorrect, virtually every other contest has some form of transparency.

And I didn’t accusing you of cheating; I pointed out that this particular contest is too easy to abuse on the part of the OP, without any kind of review possible by the players.

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

Black Dragon Posted:

I disagree with your analysis.

If 15 people enter this contest, and the three-alt player picked each number once, and all the other players picked 1 & 2, and the number was 3, then the single player wins 15 BP for spending 3.

Additionally, since we have only your word that BP was sent to you by each player, and there’s no way for us to know if any contestants entering the contest are friends of yours conspiring together, the possibility of manipulating this contest behind the scenes is too great.

I do not believe this contest should be allowed unless there is direct Moderator intervention and overview. It is too prone to potential abuse.

Voting for a single number with multiple alts isn’t so bad since it’s akin to putting more coins in a slot machine. But I doubt I’m gonna get anyone entering now. And yet this thread does not have a close bumon anywhere damnit.

Black Dragon Posted:

Incorrect, virtually every other contest has some form of transparency.

And I didn’t accusing you of cheating; I pointed out that this particular contest is too easy to abuse on the part of the OP, without any kind of review possible by the players.

I accept your point, this contest is over and I apologise for any anger, as I have mentioned it is 6AM, you’re still a male reproductive organ at times though.

Megaspel edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:30AM

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Correct, only Mods can close threads. My advice is to simply abandon it, and try again.

Best of luck.

Celerysteve

Avatar: 61989 2011-12-28 11:21:37 -0500
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[Temple of the Anth-
ropomorphic Majesty
]

Level 35 Troll

Right from the moment when I saw Saw, I laughed.

Read the ToS:

A Contest is only a Contest if you, as the OP, are not getting anything of value (i.e., BP) for it.

I would also and edit blank all your posts if you want to continue posting on this site.

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Megaspel Posted:

I accept your point, this contest is over and I apologise for any anger, as I have mentioned it is 6AM, you’re still a male reproductive organ at times though.

Amazingly, I believe this is the first time we’ve conversed.

Please realize that there were other people pointing out the flaws in this contest, not just myself. And that gave you absolutely no right to use such vile & racist language. We have other sub-forums here for that.

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
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[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Celerysteve Posted:

I would also and edit blank all your posts if you want to continue posting on this site.

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

Celerysteve Posted:

Read the ToS:

I would also and edit blank all your posts if you want to continue posting on this site.

Hey **** you. The other dude was actually quite helpful but you’re purposely being a male reproductive organ. The contest never involved me getting any value. All the BP I recieved was to be given to the winners, I gain nothing nor lose anything.

I guess the only way for this idea to have succeeded if it were to be made by a mod.

ghax

Avatar: 80241 Thu Jul 02 20:10:59 -0400 2009
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Level 35 Camwhore

I love 12 inch fine upstanding member of society male reproductive organs in my arse

Black Dragon Posted:

I disagree with your analysis.

If 15 people enter this contest, and the three-alt player picked each number once, and all the other players picked 1 & 2, and the number was 3, then the single player wins 15 BP for spending 3.

Additionally, since we have only your word that BP was sent to you by each player, and there’s no way for us to know if any contestants entering the contest are friends of yours conspiring together, the possibility of manipulating this contest behind the scenes is too great.

I do not believe this contest should be allowed unless there is direct Moderator intervention and overview. It is too prone to potential abuse.

as in “give BP to mods” and “have mods verify that the chosen number is random” and “have mods give out the prizes”?

Megaspel

Avatar: 127614 Sat Feb 28 14:34:08 -0500 2009

Level 32 Hacker

“01001000 01000001 01011000”

generichaxor Posted:

as in “give BP to mods” and “have mods verify that the chosen number is random” and “have mods give out the prizes”?

As in the mod does everything because noone trusts anyone else with anything ever.

This thread could’ve been fun if people had trusted me Log in to see images!

Handofgod succeeded in doing a pot (lol) like system.

Megaspel edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:36AM

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
10

[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

generichaxor Posted:

as in “give BP to mods” and “have mods verify that the chosen number is random” and “have mods give out the prizes”?

Technically this was my point. The structure of the contest had no public review, unlike a Friend E-Peen or Flamebater contest.

I’m also wary of any contests that involve entry fees unless I know the poster is a regular member in good standing @ FWZ (i.e., HandofG0D’s Oscar Pool)

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
10

[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Megaspel Posted:

Handofgod succeeded in doing a pot (lol) like system.

I trust HoG.

We don’t even know you.

Additionally, HoG’s contest had 100% public review. There is absolutely no way he could ‘choose’ the winner.

Celerysteve

Avatar: 61989 2011-12-28 11:21:37 -0500
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[Temple of the Anth-
ropomorphic Majesty
]

Level 35 Troll

Right from the moment when I saw Saw, I laughed.

Posting the word fart over and over is trolling, and you can’t do that in Non-RP. I’m just trying to help you. You should really edit that out.

John Fitzger-
ald Kennedy

Avatar: 43547 2009-10-17 10:48:44 -0400
10

[Dead Presidents So-
ciety
]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Agreed. We’d really rather not see people banned for ignorance, even if it’s only a short tempban. Steve’s suggestion of simply blanking out your posts is a very good suggestion. It demonstrates a desire to follow the rules, even if you made an error previously.

Just because we spoof and parody sites like 4Chan doesn’t mean we’re anything like them, or condone the same type of behavior in our non-RP forums.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy edited this message on 02/22/2009 1:49AM
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