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TOP SECRET FORUMWARZ PLANSquangntenemy Posted: |
12/06/2008 |
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Any AZNS out there? (Asians for the mentally very special)quangntenemy Posted: |
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TOP SECRET FORUMWARZ PLANSInertia Posted: (view post) |
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Any AZNS out there? (Asians for the mentally very special)ArtificialFlavour Posted:
Fine then, we’ll say asian if it makes you
Inertia Posted:
Lol, that’s so random.
Lemon Tree Posted:
But are you asian? (view post) |
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Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer!Zeta Posted:
Because not enough people are posting on this ****ty thread of mine.
Why don’t dime or nickels get dropped insted? (view post) |
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God doesn't exist you fools.Inertia Posted:
Yeah lol, I first thought that you meant you said this a long time ago, but then I realised you didn’t and edited my post.
People would probably tag you as “Satan reborn” if you said this when you were 8. lol (view post) |
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God doesn't exist you fools.Inertia Posted:
Wow, that’s deep. How long ago did you say this? (view post) |
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God doesn't exist you fools.ShadyPixels Posted:
lol, Inorite? The whole bolded part is really weird, but kinda made me lol. (view post) |
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God doesn't exist you fools.BirdofPrey Posted:
Coincidence. (view post) |
12/06/2008 |
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God doesn't exist you fools.This is copypasta from www.godisimaginary, btw.
This one made me lol out loud. Read the conversation.
Imagine heaven
If you talk to a Christian about heaven, you can clearly understand that the notion of heaven and everlasting life is imaginary. Each conversation will be different, but a typical conversation might go something like this: Chris: Jesus transcends death and promises eternal life to all who believe in him! Lift up your heart to the Lord Jesus Christ and he will give you eternal life!
Norm: How will he do that?
Chris: Have you ever read the book called “Left Behind?”
Norm: No.
Chris: You should! They have sold over 20 million copies of the book, because it is the truth! It describes exactly what will happen. One day the Lord Jesus calls his children home, and they are carried straight to heaven! Airplanes crash because their pilots have vanished. Cars run into phone poles. This is exactly what is described in the Bible.
Norm: The people completely vanish?
Chris: Yes. All that is left behind is their clothes, their jewelry and their hearing aids! The believers are transported directly to heaven!
Norm: Their naked bodies are transported to heaven?
Chris: Yes!
Norm: There are six billion people on the planet. They each weigh about 150 pounds or so. Are you telling me that God lifts a trillion pounds of human flesh off the planet in an instant?
Chris: Absolutely not! Only the believers are transported!
Norm: OK, half a trillion pounds?
Chris: Yes!
Norm: And where does this half a trillion pounds of flesh go?
Chris: To heaven!
Norm: To heaven… where is that?
Chris: It is in another dimension, of course! God lives in heaven!
Norm: How do all the bodies get to this “other dimension” called “heaven”? Do they float up into the sky and then travel through the vacuum of space?
Chris: No, silly! They are dematerialized and then rematerialize in heaven!
Norm: So you are saying that half a trillion pounds of naked human flesh are somehow “dematerialized” out of our universe, and then they “rematerialize” in “another dimension” called “heaven?” And the “dematerializing” process somehow distinguishes between natural human flesh and unnatural things like clothing and hearing aids?
Chris: Yes!
Norm: So… what if the person has artificial heart valves, a couple of stents and two titanium hip joints? Are those ripped out of his body and left behind with his jewelry?
Chris: Yes!
Norm: And what happens to that poor person, whose heart collapses and whose legs are now flopping around detached from his pelvis?
Chris: The book doesn’t really talk about that… I imagine God would fix them up!
Norm: And what about all the people whose bodies are wracked with cancer and AIDS and emphysema?
Chris: God fixes them all up too!
Norm: And what about all the decrepit 80-year-old bodies?
Chris: God gives them new, young, beautiful bodies!
Norm: And what about all the people whose bodies have died and decomposed?
Chris: God gives them young, new, beautiful bodies too!
Norm: So why bother transporting the bodies of the believers to heaven? Why not just give everyone a new, young, beautiful body and leave their old bodies on earth?
Chris: The Bible says that your body is transported to heaven! It is right there in black and white in the “Left Behind” books! That is God’s will!
Norm: OK, so heaven is full of people whose bodies or corpses or whatever have been “dematerialized” from earth, and then “rematerialized” in “heaven.” And then the dematerialized/rematerialized bodies are discarded, and they are replaced with new, young, beautiful bodies?
Chris: Yes! Now you understand the power of the Lord Jesus Christ!
Norm: What happens next?
Chris: The believers all live in heaven in peace, harmony and joy for eternity!
Norm: What is heaven like?
Chris: We get to reunite with all of our dead friends and family members! We get to meet our ancestors for the first time!
Norm: Really?
Chris: Absolutely!
Norm: What about people like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin?
Chris: Everyone is there! You can talk to anyone all through history! Plus you get to meet God and Jesus. I can’t wait to meet Jesus!
Norm: That sounds like fun. What else?
Chris: Well, the streets are paved in gold! It says so in the Bible! And everyone has a big house! And you can eat whatever you want and not get fat! And really, you just do anything that makes you happy! Everyone is always happy! And so on.
After listening to a conversation like this, it should be obvious to all of us: Heaven is imaginary. It is all completely imaginary.
Simply talk to Christians about heaven. Ask them to describe what heaven is like, and how they will get there. You will be able to feel the absurdity of this notion in two different ways: There is the direct absurdity as in the dialog above, where the creation of entirely new and completely imaginary “dimensions” and “materialization processes” tells you everything you need to know about how delusional things can get.
There is also the absurdity that comes when you compare any two people’s views of heaven. Everyone’s fabrication of heaven is different. For some it involves harps and clouds and halos. For others it involves hot and cold running virgins. For some people, the actual body is transported magically to heaven as described in the “Left Behind” books. For others, your “soul” floats out of the body and makes it way to St. Peter. And so on. People make up anything they like, because heaven is a completely imaginary place. Heaven is a fairy tale invented by human imagination. And each person’s fairy tale is different.
We imagine that we have “souls,” fabricate the concept of “eternal life” and then fantasize a place called “heaven,” complete with streets of gold, calorie-free foods, frolicking virgins and whatever else we can come up with. Christians imagine it so vividly and repeat the fantasy so often that they actually believe it to be reality.
How bizarre can the fantasies get? Fly to Cairo and take a look at the Great Pyramid. There is the pyramid itself — still one of the largest man-made objects on earth. In addition there is the whole mummification process, the disbumembled boats, the sacred artwork and so on. All of this was designed to help the pharaoh reach the afterlife. We look at it now and we all know, with absolute certainty, that it was a complete and total waste of time. The Egyptian notion of the afterlife was a fantasy.
The Christian notion of the afterlife is a fantasy in exactly the same way. Heaven is completely imaginary, just like God. (view post) |
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God doesn't exist you fools.Ok, I could have been a little more trolly in the title, but you gety the point.
And yes, I know there’s already a thread on this, but I feel like starting my own.
Statistically analyze prayer
The fact is, God never answers any prayers. The entire idea that “God answers prayers” is an illusion created by human imagination.
How do we know that “answered prayers” are illusions? We simply perform scientific experiments. We ask a group of believers to pray for something and then we watch what happens. What we find, whenever we test the efficacy of prayer scientifically, is that prayer has zero effect: It does not matter who prays. It does not matter if we pray to God, Allah, Vishnu, Zeus, Ra or any other human god. It does not matter what we pray about. If we perform scientific, double-blind tests on prayer, and if the prayers involve something concrete and measurable (for example, healing people with cancer), we know that there is zero effect from prayer. Every single “answered prayer” is nothing more than a coincidence. Both scientific experiments and your everyday observations of the world show this to be the case every single time.
For example, this article says: One of the most scientifically rigorous studies yet, published earlier this month, found that the prayers of a distant congregation did not reduce the major complications or death rate in patients hospitalized for heart treatments. And: A review of 17 past studies of ’’distant healing,” published in 2003 by a British researcher, found no significant effect for prayer or other healing methods.
This article from March, 2006 discusses the fact that the same conclusion was reached in another study: In the largest study of its kind, researchers found that having people pray for heart bypbum surgery patients had no effect on their recovery. In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications. In this article we find an amazing quote where theologians and religious leaders declare that prayer has no actual effect: Religious leaders will breathe a sigh of relief at the news that so-called intercessory prayer is medically ineffective. In a large and much touted scientific study, one group of patients was told that strangers would pray for them, a second group was told strangers might or might not pray for them, and a third group was not prayed for at all. The $2.4 million study found that the strangers’ prayers did not help patients’ recovery. This is a remarkable example of “positive spin” — religious leaders are “breathing a sigh of relief” because prayer has been shown to be meaningless. The fact that prayer is a total waste of time does not matter to them. It does not matter that all of Jesus’ promises about prayer in the Bible have been proven completely false.
A peer-reviewed scientific study published in 2001 did indicate that prayer works. According to this article: “On October 2, 2001, the New York Times reported that researchers at prestigious Columbia University Medical Center in New York had discovered something quite extraordinary. Using virtually foolproof scientific methods the researchers had demonstrated that infertile women who were prayed for by Christian prayer groups became pregnant twice as often as those who did not have people praying for them. The study was published in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine. Even the researchers were shocked. The study’s results could only be described as miraculous.” This study was later proven to be completely fraudulent. However, everyone who cut out the original article in the NYTimes and posted it on their refrigerators still has that article as “proof” that prayer works.
This article entitled A prayer before dying uncovers another case where a “scientific study” of prayer is unmasked as fraudulent.
It’s not just prayer that is ineffective. Not even a hopeful attitude helps. According to this article: A positive attitude does not improve the chances of surviving cancer and doctors who encourage patients to keep up hope may be burdening them, according to the results of research released Monday.
The dictionary defines the word “superstition” in this way: An irrational belief that an object, action, or cirgreat timesstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome. [ref] The belief in prayer is a superstition. It has been proven scientifically over and over again. When a prayer appears to be answered, it is a coincidence. Quite simply, prayer has absolutely no effect on the outcome of any event. The “power of prayer” is actually “the power of coincidence.”
Prayer does not work because God is completely imaginary.
Understanding the Rationalizations
You can find many believers who will say, “The reason why scientific experiments fail to detect God is because God must remain hidden. He does not answer prayers if he knows that he will be detected.”
In order to see the truth, you need to accept that this explanation is silly. If God must remain hidden, then he cannot answer any prayers. Any “answered prayer” would expose God.
The whole notion that “God” must remain “hidden” is a total cross-threading of religious doctrine. On the one hand, believers will say that “God wrote the Bible, God incarnated himself and died on the cross for us, and God answers millions of prayers on earth every day.” Then in the next breath they will say, “God must remain hidden.” God obviously cannot “remain hidden” and “incarnate himself.” These two items are mutually exclusive. Therefore, the explanation that “God must remain hidden” is impossible. As soon as you accept how impossible it is, you can begin to see see that God is imaginary.
In order to see the truth, you need to accept the fact that the scientific evidence is accurate and irrefutable. We have scientifically proven that God does not answer any prayers on earth. Every single “answered prayer” is nothing more than a coincidence.
We can see reality by looking at a simple example. Imagine that the rate of remission for some particularly nasty type of cancer is 5%. That means that if 20 people get this type of cancer, it is almost always fatal. Only one in twenty of the people who get the disease will survive. Knowing this, you can see what happens if we actually analyze prayer: 20 believers contract the disease All of them have read James 5:15, so all of them pray. 19 of them die The one who lives proclaims, “I prayed to the Lord and the Lord answered my prayers! My disease is cured! It is a miracle! I KNEW God would answer my prayers!” You never hear about the 19 who died. No one ever writes about them in a magazine. “Person prays, then dies” is not a great headline. And since they are dead, you will never hear from any of these people. Therefore, if you don’t look at all the facts around the “answered prayer,” and you only hear about the one out of twenty prayers that succeed, it appears that prayer is successful. The fact is, believers who pray die from this disease at exactly the same rate as people who do not.
We can see the reality of this situation simply by opening our eyes and looking at the data. But we do have to open our eyes — We have to look at both the successes AND the failures of prayer to see the reality of our world. When we take a scientific approach and we do look at both sides, we see what is really happening. God does not answer any prayers because God is imaginary.
TL;DR: Answered prayers are mere coincidences. (It’s worth a read though) (view post) |
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God is fake. Gods are fake.Good thread. I’m going to make my own “god doesn’t exist” thread. (view post) |
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Pie chart of Twilight... (Poll)Drunkenlazybastard Posted:
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zigzagoon Posted:
Wow.. that was somewhat special. (view post) |
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Pie chart of Twilight... (Poll)bump (view post) |
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Pie chart of Twilight... (Poll)bump. (view post) |
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Pie chart of Twilight... (Poll)Log in to see images!
Agree/agree? (view post) |
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Better web spiders?Zeta Posted:
You raise an interesting point. I agree with your three points(I really like the corrupted file idea a lot), but I never mentionned trading .moar parts. Without the trading, I don’t see why they would have to sell for more than 5 mil. flezz.
Anyways, it’s just an idea. (view post) |
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PatchTheDarknut doesn't want to be my friend anymore because I hanged his avatar.DesdiPhoenix Posted:
I deleted the picture unfortunately, but you can find it by typing in the letter “g” in google (With safe search turned off) (view post) |
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PatchTheDarknut doesn't want to be my friend anymore because I hanged his avatar.Biff Weasley Posted:
Lol. Someone should make a photo on MSpaint of a woman's genitals inside an bum or something. I’m too lazy to do it myself. (view post) |
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Sex is badArtificialFlavour Posted:
Check mate. (view post) |
12/06/2008 |