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Suggestion: RP forumsYes, I noticed that the new stickies were added without following the “who stickied it” notice MCB decided on in this post. It’s like Cid didn’t bother to check the Whores forum sticky today before doing stuff in there.
I was going to report the problem, but was worried I would get banned like Oda and Sancdar did. (view post) |
04/21/2009 | |
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+ + + B&B's Search For Forumwarz Next Male Top Model! FINAL ROUND VOTING + + +Voted. Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/21/2009 |
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Why you should vote for me in the Forumwarz Next Male Top Model contest.Jalapeno Bootyhole Posted:
I would be far more compelled to vote for you if you did these things.
Move this to the Whores forum and sticky it, imo. Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/21/2009 |
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SHII: A Case Study in Furry Sexiness...or not.The Magic cards. The Scrabble… Oh god, I feel really dirty. Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/21/2009 |
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Like, totally READ ME, omg!!!MC Banhammer Posted:
Probably. It was awfully long winded, I didn’t read it myself. Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/21/2009 |
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Do we really need twitter updates about itembuildr?Jalapeno Bootyhole Posted:
Where is SG94 when we need her? Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Idea: split domination week into 6 roundsDunatis Posted: No, I certainly don’t think that one needs to be top ten to be seriously competing. It is true, it doesn’t matter nearly so much outside the top few brackets, but then as you say one can join mid week in say bracket 10 and still have a shot at medaling. I don’t think the end time and all this would matter nearly so much to players in those brackets, do you? Although the mini-rounds might make things skew even more radically in those brackets where a player might sit alone for 3 days sweeping the mini-rounds with next to no scoops. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Idea: split domination week into 6 roundsDunatis Posted:
I’m sorry, but no one who is seriously competing does 12 visits twice a week. A week is started with 12 visits banked and there are 3 sets of 12 visits plus a bonus 4 visits – a total of 40 visits. But yes, breaking things down would only exaggerate the power dynamic problems we see with The bumhole. It would also greatly exaggerate the buildr score advantage.
In the land of min scoops someone could potentially win 3 days of the 6 with min of 2 and beat out the person who ends the week with mins of 60+. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
So whats your favorite way to get banned?It has yet to be determined.
Someone should make me a mod again. (view post) |
04/20/2009 | |
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Please dear mods remove the ban from darling 1337xxxlolololxxx1337's accountWhy is 1337lol banned at all? God I never know wtf is going on. Someone invite Lester back to FU so I can get info. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Limit EmoticonsI’d rather not keep beating the dead horse, but the simple fact is that if I ask each mod how long a ban would be for the same thing I would get different answers.
If Angry Hobo asked each mod the same question he would likely get wildly different answers or a refusal to commit to an answer because of his colorful record.
For example. I have never posted embedded shock. If I post embedded shock will I receive a one day ban for a first time offense? Will it be longer if it is posted in a non-rp area due to being trolling in a non-rp area?
As I said in my tub to MCB, there is more “up in the air” than there probably should be. Like everything else in the game it only has an impact on a small section of the player base, but in every area that weird section of the player base seems to consist of the ringleaders that encourage others to participate and hang around longer.
On topic, walls of emoticons lag the hell out of my browser and sometimes crash it. However, trolls gotta troll, and they love to make you scroll, so leave it be. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Limit EmoticonsTubmail. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Why are people sauing I'm a man:(DO NOT BAN SG94 SHE IS ACTUALLY P COOL Posted: (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Like, totally READ ME, omg!!!MC Banhammer Posted:
So I was wondering how hard it would be to make an edit to the beginning post.
The post is still standing there not telling that posting text is a bad thing. It clearly states that posting images that do not apply directly to the subject of the thread is bannable. I understand that and while I don’t believer there was enough notice or fanfare given to that rule it is pretty clear that most players will now be aware of it.
Actually, they probably aren’t, since the majority of the rp posters don’t frequent the Game Discussion forums. It is entirely possible that there are people logged on right now that have no idea that the rules have been changed.
That just doesn’t seem fair.
I hope if they make a post while unaware some leniency will be shown.
I am very worried about what will happen if someone posts text.
Besides the recent “off topic” picture bans, a player recently got banned for posting excerpts from a piece of literature. There was no rule at all about that. It was noted that the player should be aware of the “spirit” of the rules. I can see that to a certain extent, but am a bit concerned when there is such a large diversity in the age range of players on site. Is it to be expected that a 12 year old can interpret the “spirit” of the rules? Not that I’m trying to be ageist or anything like that, it is simply that age brings wisdom and the experience necessary to take an inferred meaning rather than needing to have something spelled out.
For example, one could say that it is simple common sense that a person not post shock pictures. They are called “shock pictures” and the very phrase implies that there is something to be considered before exposing people to them unawares. However, almost daily we see players who post “shock pictures”, most notably this pic (please note that the following link is to a shock pic entitled goatse) of goastse or some variation of goatse.
One would think that players would have the sense to know better and yet they obviously do not. Log in to see images!
It has been several days now, and I know it was mentioned in some random post that the matter of rule changes and how to address them, where to post them and how to update them to ensure public awareness is being discussed. It was mentioned that these things would happen “soon”, but that there was no definite timeframe and that “soon” was to be taken with a grain of salt and could actually mean “a really long time” to normal people.
I think that is fine, I mean it’s a smallish site with a personal feel and obviously the Crotch Zombie staff has a lot of things to do, not just this one issue.
However, as I mentioned, a player recently received a week long ban for posting things that were not noted anywhere, but were rather breaking the “spirit” of a rule. I find that unsatisfyingly vague and moreover I think it is a bit irresponsible that the rules still haven’t been updated anywhere to say that if you post a lot of text there will be repercussions. Any mod or admin can edit the post and all it would take would be one line.
It really wouldn’t take very long to add a single line warning players that there could be repercussions for posts they make in one of the role playing forums.
Wait, is it only if the text is off topic? What about text that applies to the topic at hand?
I noticed that there are several open role playing posts in some of the sticky threads, and far far more that would be impossible to verify. So if a picture is on topic, but not in keeping with the actual spirit of the thread (in say the “Post your forehead with some short bangs” thread) it appears that that is legal, since the following pic was posted, reported, and yet remains.
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So for example if I posted this in the short bangs and forehead thread…
...would that be a problem? If not would it not be a problem because it was relevant to the topic or because it was short enough? I often see one off notes that are not relevant to the topic. Are they ok because they are short? If so where it the cut off? Is there a certain number of characters – meaning if you post fewer than “x” characters the post will slide by without violating the “spirit” of the rule?
Until something formal can be decided it would probably be a good idea to at least make a note of the text based rule in the OP of this thread.
I would say this bump could serve as informing the general Flamebate readers that there is a text based side of the rule, but I don’t think most people look at the player based bumps on the rules threads. Plus, I believe I have too many things still in need of clarification, the most important being whether the rule applies to all posts or just off topic posts.
Sorry for the lack of patience, I just get really frustrated when I think that I could easily have done something and been punished for it without even knowing it would be a problem.
The same thing happened when MST did that thing where he got legal alts to tubmail users. Many players were unaware of any sort of unwritten rule about mbum mailings and they were all kind of freaked out by the thought that they could have just been smacked with a perma without any sort of warning or indication that it was an illegal thing to do.
So, yeah, maybe update the OP now? I mean it might not be the most effective and it might cause people to rage blindly when players get banned for the weird rules that no one is aware or, but at least if there are noted somewhere it doesn’t make people are freaked and angsty as the feeling that the whole “because we said so” gives when something unwritten is enforced.
Maybe change the update to: Oh, also? We like looking at on topic posts in the stickies in this forum. Posting any images and/or text in Sticky threads in this forum which do not directly apply to the subject of the thread is bannable. Not a great solution, even as a temporary solution, but at least it would give people a chance and be better than nothing at all. *shrug* (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Official Escher Photo ThreadOMG, I just realized that all the Escher pics are depicting a child in a highly sexualized manner! Escher’s bio from a year ago states that she is 16, that means she is 17 at most now. Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Girllss... post yer mammary glands!!Log in to see images! (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Limit EmoticonsMC Banhammer Posted:
I can only say what I’ve perceived. There has always been inconsistency, but of course it is more noticeable with the increase in mods. Some mods obviously address only what is reported, some obviously hunt for things. Some look at idc very differently than others.
I don’t think anyone expects all the rules to be changed. Despite what goes on with the players who push the border, I think most are smart enough to get that a pure free for all would not only kill the site, but also eliminate some of their fun. (It’s not as interesting to post photo shopped goatse to see if it sneaks by if you are allowed to post the unedited version and more.)
Are you honestly confused about why the community gets up in arms when we see certain things happen? When certain violations are met with instant punishment and others are brushed under the rug? I can make a list of the players who will in fact not be given the benefit of the doubt should they do something borderline that another player would get away with.
Yes, it is a very human response to say, “They are always a jackbum, of course they are being a jackbum.” Still, don’t you think the mod team would get a heck of a lot less grief if player a and player b both received the same punishment for the same violation? Don’t you think there would be less angst if players were made aware of what the punishments would be for violation of rules? There was a thread in klan **** You asking Nicco what the ban lengths for certain things would be. Almost none of the answers were definite. There was a lot of “probably this or maybe this.” If the mods can’t answer the question that is a pretty good indication that selective modding and unfair harshness or leniency is absolutely happening. It is impossible for it to be fair because a good portion of things are left to the discretion of whichever mod stumbles onto it.
Right now we have pretend rules that people should infer due to the “spirit” of things, 7 mods and 3 admins with different views on how rules should be interpreted and punished and a rule that says if a mod feels like it then that is ok, too. All this on a site that encourages rp, trolling and recently held a sanctioned contest encouraging the population to go practice trolling the **** out of people. Seriously, the dual message of trolling is funny as **** please don’t do it, is wacky as hell.
I don’t know, it makes no sense for me to type out a detailed “what I would do” thing. I am notoriously wordy, full of opinion and can generally tell you exactly what I would do. It seldom matters as I don’t make the rules.
tl;dr: Getting the mods all on the same page is important. Clarifying rules and putting them somewhere reasonable with notifications about updates so that people aren’t banned for things they didn’t know were wrong, also a good idea. (view post) |
04/20/2009 |
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Limit EmoticonsMC Banhammer Posted: I believe people are annoyed by the lack of consistency in both the rules and moderation, as well as the seemingly random things that are chosen to be enforced with an iron fist. We often see chewing gum in clbum receive a harsher punishment than showing up with a semi-automatic, and a good percentage of the time it all hinges on who is chewing the gum. (view post) |
04/19/2009 |
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BAN THAT PROFESSOR COMMIE IDIOTTesfan – I like the watch pic in your sig. (view post) |
04/19/2009 |
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MasterBall-gateAmasius Posted: That is not a bad idea at all really.
ET – I think you don’t play any continuing multiplayer games. You constantly look at things from the perspective of someone who plays in a closed game environment where it is easy to push a reset bumon or go back to a save place. You made e-peens, you set up leaderboards, you set up an end game that relies on enhancing a character and playing differently than one needs to in the base game. How can you be shocked that players get annoyed when you shift some game mechanic you’ve put into place that suddenly undermines months worth of visits? (view post) |
04/19/2009 |