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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)BirdofPrey Posted:
Yup, pretty damn close. Very similar situation. (view post) |
05/29/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)BirdofPrey Posted:
Evil Trout will be reviewing this soon, I think. I will ask him to decide whether wild-**** can claim the Bounty for ‘turning himself in’. But considering how much Wild-**** is arguing that he didn’t break any rules (when clear logic shows, yes, he most certainly did), he may not qualify for the Bounty. I mean, you can’t turn yourself in, present proof of your crime, and then plead ‘Not Guilty’ during your trial, right?
My thoughts on this is that wild-**** needs to either A) Stick to his current position that he didn’t break any rules and hope for the 10 BP or B) Conceded that he did indeed break the rules, and accept the 5 BP Bounty Reward.
I think if he decides to stick with Option A, then he shouldn’t be allowed to potentially claim Option B.
So, here’s my official offer, Wild-****: Either admit that you broke the original, official rules & take a 5 BP Bounty Reward, or, try to convince Evil Trout that you won the contest and either get 10 BP or nothing at all.
Do you take the guaranteed, easy 5 BPs, or do you risk it all and hope that Evil Trout rules inyour favor?
FIVE BP guaranteed or risk all TEN BP and possibly walk away with nothing.
Well, nothing but your shame, that is.
What’s your decision, Wild-****? (view post) |
05/29/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)wilD-****22 Posted: Did you even bother to read my ‘Bob & Dave’ example? I laid a trap. You fell for it. Just like in the ‘Bob & Dave’ example. It’s really that simple.
Yes, because as Sancdar told you elsewhere, by providing evidence that you broke the rules (i.e., breaking a rule in the public thread), you can claim the Bounty Hunter 5 BP. Either way, you make BP out of this deal. If no one got any BP out of this, I wouldn’t get my E-Peen. It’s really that simple.
You didn’t stick to the official rule set. You’re hiding behind a fake rule that was set out there as a trap.
Make sure you understand this: the BP for this contest came out of my pocket, and no one else’s. This was not a Team Shortbus Contest, this was a Czarnian bumbumin Contest. And no matter how you try to twist it, you were my personal paid puppet, for 5 or 10 cents per hour, for five days.
That would be funny, because you would then have 5 BPs for a game you don’t play.
I don’t understand why you bumumed that I wouldn’t try to set up obstacles & challenges for you during the challenge.
Let me try to get through to you. One. Last. Time. After the contest began, the rules were set in place. Nothing I said or did after that was official. If it was, I could have used the same authority to make a new rule that you couldn’t possibly follow, and therefore make it impossible for you to win. It’s a simple true/false statement. You don’t get to pick which ‘new rules’ you choose to use in the contest.
You got tricked. You fell for the trap. You got Trolled, Epically. Deal with it. Accept your BP, always remember that for 5 days, you were my little public puppet whore, selling yourself for a measly five cents per hour.
I mean, even Columbian ditch diggers get paid more than that. Seriously.
Remember, if you had simply waited until the contest deadline was over (you only had 20 hours to go, man!), then you would have won, free and clear. I didn’t screw you out of the 10 BP prize: You screwed yourself. Be happy with the 5 BP consolation prize for ‘turning yourself in’. (view post) |
05/29/2008 |
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wilD-****22 is going to post in this topicThen perhaps both of them should get 5 BP!
In any event, this was a blast! It couldn’t have worked out any better. Now we simply wait for E.T. to make his final call.
I am quite proud of this contest & its results.Log in to see images! (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)wilD-****22 Posted:
And when did you agree to the new rule?
Seriously, dude, it was a simple trap, and when you didn’t reply to it, even to ‘agree’ to the new rule, I figured that you saw right through it. I bumumed that you knew I was trying to trick you, and were too smart for that. I must have overestimated you.
But, in all honesty, if Evil Trout rules that you broke rule #2, then I’m going to tell him that you qualify for the Bounty Hunter reward.
I did not have any authority to change any rules after the contest began. So the contest is now, officially over, has been for a few hours now. You will either win 5 or 10 BP.
In the end, it’s just a matter of whether you were my nickel-per-hour or dime-per-hour puppet. But you were a paid puppet, either way. (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22 is going to post in this topicwilD-****22 Posted:
Dude… you fell for a simple trap. I never said I wouldn’t try to trick you (which is different than cheating you). And I’m not refusing to pay you. I’m simply agreeing to allow Evil Trout to decide if the trap I laid was fair or not. In fact, I expect, even if he rules that you broke the rule when you replied to my post, he will rule that this counts as providing the proof of your rules violation, earning you the 5 BP Bounty. In fact, I’m really hoping you get BP out of this, that way I can get my E-Peen. My contest has to pay out BP for me to earn the E-Peen.
So your ‘belief’ that I’m trying to keep you from getting any BPs at all is ridiculous. The main purpose of this was to earn an E-Peen. The secondary purpose was to get you to dance like my little puppet… which you’ve done exceptionally well.
Hell, man, I hope E.T. rules in your favor. Your flailing and whining has been incredibly entertaining, well worth 10 cents an hour! (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)Bob challenges Dave to a silence contest. Bob bets Dave $10 that Dave cannot stay silent for five minutes. Dave agrees. Bob starts the timer, and five seconds into the challenge says that he just remembered, he can only afford $5, so he’s changing the bet. Dave says, ”You can’t do that, you can’t change the bet!!!” Bob stops the timer, and tells Dave he just lost the silence challenge.
Of course I was going to try to trick & bait you. And you fell for it. I thought for sure that you wouldn’t fall for it, but I had to try. That was part of the challenge. You even said that you were expecting some dirty tricks. But we didn’t photoshop anything, we didn’t fabricate any evidence. We simply baited you.
Evil Trout Tubmailed me back, he’s going to review it later and render a decision. I’ve already given him my position and presented my argument.
By the way, if you’re going to stick to the ”Czarnian bumbumin had the authority to change a rule after the contset began because it was his contest” defense, allow me to change another few rules, since you’re allowing me that authority:
Rule Change A: The Contest is for Ten Days. Rule Change B: If Wild**** makes any posts at all within the Ten Day contest time, he loses the contest, and owes Czarnian bumbumin 20 Brownie Points.
If the first ‘rule change’ was legal, then so are these…. So, where’s my money? Log in to see images! (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22 is going to post in this topicSancdar Posted:
Completely true. In fact, he’s taking a risk right now. I’ve got him dead to rights. He’s claiming that a rule that was added after the contest began gave him immunity if he replied to me in regards to a rules question. But that wasn’t part of the original rules. And I didn’t have the authority to change rules after the contest began. If I did have such authority, I could have added a completely unfair rule, such as ’If there is any lag experienced by any player on ForumWarz during the contest, wild-****22 loses the challenge.’ So, when Wild**** disputed my ‘decision’, he broke rule #2.
If he had simply posted five minutes after the game began that he was providing proof of his rule violation, and therefore eligible for the 5 BP bounty, he would have spent virtually no time on the contest and walked away with 5 BP.
In fact, since he’s demanding an Evil Trout ruling, he might lose the whole 10 BP that he thinks he’s won. If he simply asks for the 5 BP Bounty (not the 10 BP, because that was also changed after the contest began), I would rule in his favor.
But insisting that he ‘followed the rules’, when the ‘rule’ he followed wasn’t a rule, it was a trap… he might end up with nothing.
Guess we’ll see what Evil Trout says. (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)So, are you saying I had the authority to change the rules after the contest began? Because the ‘rule’ that allowed you to reply to me was added after the contest began.
That’s a huge can of worms you’re opening up.
Are you sure you want to stick by that position? (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)There was nothing in the original rules that allowed you to reply to me during the contest. Any ‘rule’ that I added after the contest began was not a valid rule, especially considering how many revisions you forced me to make to my first set of rules. The fact that you were so involved with setting the rules in the first place is more than sufficient to indicate that the rule set was critically important to you. There is no way you would have allowed me to have the authority to change any rules after the beginning of the contest. Therefore, it is clear that my ‘rule change’, which came after the contest had started, was not a legal rule. Therefore, rule #2 was still in place, unmodified, and you replied to a TSB member’s post before the deadline was up. Had you waited until the five days was up, you would have been 100% free and clear.
You can’t hid behind a ‘rule’ that wasn’t part of the original rule set. If I had said instead that ‘Oh, by the way, if Wild-**** makes any posts in any forum, that disqualifies him’, then would you have allowed me the authority in that case to make the rule change?
Of course not. Only because the ‘rule change’ benefited you did you accept it. I wasn’t expecting you to fall for that. I figured it was a pretty lame attempt to trip you up, and since you didn’t post anything for almost four days, I figured that you’d realized I was trying to trick you. And at first, I thought you’d posted your ‘rules dispute posts’ AFTER the deadline.
Imagine my surprise when you actually took the bait?
But again, in the interest of fairness, even though I think I executed a clbumic misdirection tactic on you, I’ll defer to Evil Trout’s decision.
I think basic logic works in my favor though. (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)wilD-****22 Posted:
See my above post for the two reasons that you may have lost. I will let E.T. be the final judge.
Yes, I attempted to trick you, during the contest. Once the contest started, your job was to stick to the original rules. You replied to me, based upon a ‘rule’ that was added after the contest began. If I had the power to add rules after the contest began, then why wouldn’t I simply add a rule that if anyone quotes a previous post of yours, or mentions your name, or anything incredibly absurd, then you lose? If I had the authority to change the rules midgame, then you lost before we began.
If you replied to a TSB member based upon a ‘rule’ that was added after the contest began, then you violated rule number two: 2. wilD-****22 may not reply to any posts made by any member of Team Shortbus, except in a non-Roleplaying forum.(view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)1. That ‘rule change’ occurred AFTER the contest started. In one of your rapid-fire posts, you state that I can’t change any rules during the contest without E.T.’s approval (i.e., the splitting the bounty). You can’t pick and choose which rule changes you want to allow. Did E.T. approve that rule change? Or did you reply to a TSB member before the contest was over. You could have simply waited until after the contest deadline expired, and then made those posts. There is a strong position there that anything I posted AFTER the contest started wasn’t part of the official contest, especially after you made such a big deal about the minutiae of the rules.
2. Even if the ‘rule change’ is authentic, then the part in regards to non-antagonistic replies would still apply. I submit that your replies to me, inside the time limits of the contest, were somewhat aggressive and antagonistic.
I think I will, in the interest of fairness, simply ask Evil Trout to render a final decision. I think you pushed the rule-limit too hard and broke it. But I want to remove my possible bias from the equation.
I’ll leave it in E.T.’s hands.
Best of luck. (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)Check my edit. I didn’t realize those posts came BEFORE the deadline. That changes everything.
I will take the time to review those posts, and their time stamps. Replying to me wasn’t allowable under the official rules.
Give me a few minutes to check those posts and make a fair bumessment.
By the way, is 10 cents an hour your standard rate, or can I get a better discount if I need a puppet for, say, two-weeks? (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)Thank you so much, Wild-****. I could not have asked for a better puppet. I throw out a little piece of bait, and you snap it right up. Hilarious. And I even considered photoshopping a ‘screenshot’ to add to the deception, but decided that would be going to far. I do believe that guenwhyever is not your alt, although I have asked for that to be confirmed officially, just to be on the safe side.
But even if that’s not your alt, we still have this to consider: You were my little puppet plaything for 10 cents an hour. For 120 Hours, you did exactly what I told you to do, for a payout worth $12.50. I suggest using 3 of those Brownie Points and changing your name to cHeAp-****22.
This was a lot of fun. Thanks for the laughs. (view post) |
05/28/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)OP Updated as well (view post) |
05/27/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)Verifiable Evidence Provided! Two separate parties: Molnir and a player that is asking to remain anonymous. Same evidence provided by both players, I will either split the bounty or try to determine which player provided the evidence first.
Good job, you two. I’ll Tubmail you my decision (I’ll probably just split it, since one of you emailed me and the other Tubmailed me, and Tubmails have no time-stamps, I don’t think I could be 100% who got it first) and then I’ll Tubmail Evil Trout on how to get you your points. I’ll probably have to pay the transfer fee, but that’s not a problem. (view post) |
05/27/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)guenwhyever Posted: |
05/27/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)May 27th, 5:45 p.m. EDT – Awaiting verification of submitted proof of a rules violation.
If there is a winning Bounty Hunter, I will announce it as soon as I get this proof verified. (view post) |
05/27/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)If wild-****22 and guenwhenever are the same person, and both ‘characters’ log on and confirm that, then yes, guenwhenever, as the Bounty Hunter, would receive 10 BP. (view post) |
05/25/2008 |
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wilD-****22's Endurance Challenge (10 BP Reward)TeeKayEff Posted:
If that happens, the person that provides me with the proof of that gets the BP. If it’s Evil Trout that provides the proof…. I don’t know, I’ll have to ponder that. I may offer to make that part of a ‘donation fund’ of some kind, or I may make a new, different contest. (view post) |
05/24/2008 |