nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

this is pretty irrelevant.

Just because we might be able to become Intelligent Designers ourselves doesn’t mean one designed us.

It doesn’t mean one designed us, but it does give a precedent.

But in addition…even the most sophisticated, human-like program we could create would still be bound to the programming we’ve given it – a creation is not bound to all the same rules as it’s creator. If we’re the result of some form of ID, we’re bound to the rules it places on us, and those could be that the Designer doesn’t want us to acknowledge it’s existence.

I’ve heard somewhat convincing arguments that our existence is a highly-sophisticated hologram or computer program, or that we’re a kind of ‘test-tube’ for some other form of intelligence. I don’t believe them, but they certainly count as ID as well.

L2 Posted:

It doesn’t mean one designed us, but it does give a precedent.

But in addition…even the most sophisticated, human-like program we could create would still be bound to the programming we’ve given it – a creation is not bound to all the same rules as it’s creator. If we’re the result of some form of ID, we’re bound to the rules it places on us, and those could be that the Designer doesn’t want us to acknowledge it’s existence.

Then what’s the point of it at all? By saying “There’s an intelligent designer, but he’s made it so exactly so it looks like there isn’t one” you’ve made an arguement that doesn’t allow any opposing sides. And one that offers nothing, I might add.

I’ve heard somewhat convincing arguments that our existence is a highly-sophisticated hologram or computer program, or that we’re a kind of ‘test-tube’ for some other form of intelligence. I don’t believe them, but they certainly count as ID as well.

Sure they count as ID. But it’s not science. And studying it is impossible.

nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

Sure they count as ID. But it’s not science. And studying it is impossible.

That’s the crux of science though, making the impossible possible, and the illogical logical.

nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

No it isn’t.

Where the **** did you get that idea?

The purpose of science is trying to understand everything we can through rigorous testing and observation.

i learned all my science from cinematic masterpiece “The Core”

nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

No it isn’t.

Where the **** did you get that idea?

The purpose of science is trying to understand everything we can through rigorous testing and observation.

But limiting what one could test and observe to what’s “scientifically possible” is a mistake. Thousands of years ago, it would’ve been scientifically impossible to go a mile underwater, much less to the bottom of the ocean – even if you could hold your breath for that amount of time, undersea pressure would crush you. But now we have submarines, submersibles, etc., which give us entirely new scientific frontiers to explore.

And while the deepest parts of the oceans are still impossible to reach, we recognize that as technology develops, we’ll go deeper yet, but that’s because we accept the possibility that the those areas can be reached and we work to get there.

It might not be an issue of ID being impossible to study, it might just be we don’t know HOW to study it yet. But to find ways to study ID, we have to acknowledge it as a possibility.

L2 Posted:

But limiting what one could test and observe to what’s “scientifically possible” is a mistake.

ahahahahahahaha

HOW CAN WE STUDY SOMETHING WE CAN’T STUDY

It might not be an issue of ID being impossible to study, it might just be we don’t know HOW to study it yet. But to find ways to study ID, we have to acknowledge it as a possibility.

Anything’s possible, actually.

It’s probability that really matters.

And the people that want to study intelligent design? Sure, study it. No one is saying you can’t study something. But the scientific community is instead working on things they can study instead of sitting and waiting for someone to think of how to study something that is currently unstudyable.

Marcos El Malo Posted:

IM IN UR HARD ON COLLIDER, LOOKING FOR GOD PARTICLES

OH GOD I CAN’T WAIT IT UNTIL IT COMES UP

MINI MOTHER****ING BLACK HOLES

nanafabulous personjesus Posted:

OH GOD I CAN’T WAIT IT UNTIL IT COMES UP

MINI MOTHER****ING BLACK HOLES

BLACK WHOLES ARE SATAM111111111

Marcos El Malo Posted:

BLACK WHOLES ARE SATAM111111111

I THINK THE PROOF OF GARRET LISI’S THEORY WILL COUNTERACT THE SATANIC BLACK HOLES WITH THEIR JEWISH MYSTICISM

Marcos, he was mostly a crazy old kook. Except when he was young, at which point he was a crazy young kook.