BirdofPrey Posted:

ahahahaha you believe in evolution you very special piece of ****e

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Evolution is proved by expirements, for example consider how Shaposhnikov expirimented with aphids, or how Miller and Urey got organic components from non-organic(it’s not really evolution – it’s ‘base’ of evolution ).

Evolution is not belief. It is the fact. Fact, that has actual evidences.

Most obvious demonstration of evolution are children:

For example, child appearance is similar to appearnce of his/her parents (and grand parents and grand grand parents etc). Most obvious similiraty between child and parents is colour of skin. Less obvious: form of face, color of hair etc.

Also consider “feral children”(children, raised by animals). Unsurpirsingly,

they act like animals, and not like human. This really does demonstrate that human IS actually animal. And not super-being-created-by-god-separetengly-from-animals.

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But some selfish religious fabulous persons can not accept the truth. Woe!

teh ability 2 evolv is nawt teh same as evoluton.

that specees evolv is provn fact, no mattr wut u bleve or religon u follow. teh thery of evoluton is just that, a thery.

i still bleve in both, tho.

Zre Posted:

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Evolution is proved by expirements, for example consider how Shaposhnikov expirimented with aphids, or how Miller and Urey got organic components from non-organic(it’s not really evolution – it’s ‘base’ of evolution ).

Evolution is not belief. It is the fact. Fact, that has actual evidences.

Most obvious demonstration of evolution are children:

For example, child appearance is similar to appearnce of his/her parents (and grand parents and grand grand parents etc). Most obvious similiraty between child and parents is colour of skin. Less obvious: form of face, color of hair etc.

Also consider “feral children”(children, raised by animals). Unsurpirsingly,

they act like animals, and not like human. This really does demonstrate that human IS actually animal. And not super-being-created-by-god-separetengly-from-animals.

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But some selfish religious fabulous persons can not accept the truth. Woe!

There is no known scientific law that would allow one kind of creature to turn naturally into a completely different kind. Insects don’t evolve into more complex non-insects for instance, because they don’t have the genes to do it.

To show that all life evolved from a single cell, which itself came from some type of chemical soup, there would have had to be mbumive genetic information gains.

But evolutionists have failed to show how this gain of new information occurred. Where did the information come from for the first bristles, stomachs, spines, intestines, complex blood circulation systems, intricate mouthpieces to strain special foods out of the water, and so on, when these are not found in the ancestral species?

The theory of evolution teaches that simple life-forms evolved into more complex life-forms, such as fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals. There is no natural law known that could allow this to happen. The best that evolutionists can come up with to try to explain how this might have happened is to propose that it happened by mutations and natural selection.

But mutations and natural selection do not show gain in information, just rearrangement or loss of what is already there — therefore there may be beneficial mutations without an increase in genetic information.

Mutations overwhelmingly destroy genetic information and produce creatures more handicapped than the parents. And natural selection simply weeds out unfit creatures. Natural selection may explain why light-colored moths in England decreased and dark moths proliferated (because during the industrial revolution the light moths on dark tree trunks were more easily seen and eaten by birds), but it cannot show that moths could ever turn into effective, totally different, non-moth creatures. Moths do not have the genetic information to evolve into something that is not a moth, no matter how much time you give them.

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Velveteen Posted:

1. O RLY?

2. [citation needed]

“Evolution” mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. Variation is the real part. The types of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation. Each type and length of beak a finch can have is already in the gene pool for finches. Creationists have always agreed that there is variation within species. But what evolutionists do not want you to know is that there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed, something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of. Evolutionists want you to think that changes continue, merging gradually into new kinds of creatures. This is where the imaginary part of the theory of evolution comes in. It says that new information is added to the gene pool by mutation and natural selection to create frogs from fish, reptiles from frogs, and mammals from reptiles, to name a few.

Do these big changes really happen? Evolutionists tell us we cannot see evolution taking place because it happens too slowly. A human generation takes about 20 years from birth to parenthood. They say it took tens of thousands of generations to form man from a common ancestor with the ape, from populations of only hundreds or thousands. We do not have these problems with bacteria. A generation of bacteria grows in a matter of hours. There are more bacteria in the world than there are grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world (and many grains of sand are covered with bacteria). They exist in just about any environment: heat, cold, dry, wet, high pressure, low pressure, small groups, large colonies, isolated, much food, little food, much oxygen, no oxygen, in toxic chemicals, etc. There is much variation in bacteria. There are many mutations (in fact, evolutionists say that smaller organisms have a faster mutation rate than larger ones4). But they never turn into anything new. They always remain bacteria. Fruit flies are much more complex than already complex single-cell bacteria. Scientists like to study them because a generation (from egg to adult) takes only 9 days. In the lab, fruit flies are studied under every conceivable condition. There is much variation in fruit flies. There are many mutations. But they never turn into anything new. They always remain fruit flies. Many years of study of countless generations of bacteria and fruit flies all over the world shows that evolution is not happening today.

This is how the imaginary part is supposed to happen: On rare occasions a mutation in DNA improves a creature’s ability to survive, so it is more likely to reproduce (natural selection). That is evolution’s only tool for making new creatures. It might even work if it took just one gene to make and control one part. But parts of living creatures are constructed of intricate components with connections that all need to be in place for the thing to work, controlled by many genes that have to act in the proper sequence. Natural selection would not choose parts that did not have all their components existing, in place, connected, and regulated because the parts would not work. Thus all the right mutations (and none of the destructive ones) must happen at the same time by pure chance. That is physically impossible. To illustrate just how impossible it is, imagine this: on the ground are all the materials needed to build a house (nails, boards, shingles, windows, etc.). We tie a hammer to the wagging tail of a dog and let him wander about the work site for as long as you please, even millions of years. The swinging hammer on the dog is as likely to build a house as mutation-natural selection is to make a single new working part in an animal, let alone a new creature.

Zre Posted:

It’s practicized by stupidest people only. Surpisingly, not all beliviers stupid so much.

But it’s not so bad as it seems – natural selection will pwn them \\[^_^]//

Evolution can not be and must not be stopped ;-)

ITS PRACTICIZED BY STUPIDIEST PEOPLE ONLY

SUPRISINGLY NOT ALL BELEIVERS STUPID SO MUCH

P.S. NATURAL SELECTION DOES NOT WORK WITH SOCIETIES LIKE OURS YOU fabulous person

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keWANGji Posted:

I was an atheist for a while, but now I’m in the ‘Justshutthe****upandleavemealone’ camp. I don’t care about religion, or the opposite, or the lack of it. Just get along and don’t give me your opinions. Now, I know I clicked this thread and brought it upon myself, I’m just explaining my views.

Stop looking down on people, be good examples instead of just attacking eachother, atheists and theists. Plx?

your views are dumb burn in hell

BirdofPrey Posted:

2. The fossil record, our only dogreat timesentation of whether evolution actually occurred in the past, lacks any transitional forms, and all types appear fully-formed when first present. The evidence that “pre-men” (ape-men) existed is dubious at best. So called pre-man fossils turn out to be those of apes, extinct apes, fully man, or historical frauds.

Well…

Of course everything is fully formed in the fossil-records…

Everything is fully formed…

It wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t, silly…

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