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There should be an E-Peen for toping the E-Peen Leaderboard | |||||||
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SoronTheBeast Posted:
So if it decrees it at an acute angle I will be better able to bumess my rank? And I don’t think it’s really fair to chop it every time you hit the top for the first time. What if someone hits the top for the first time like 8 times? I think it should only do anything the first time you hit the top for the first time. |
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Posted On: 11/11/2009 4:41PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hobart Bliggity Posted:
My horrible spelling aside, like any other E-Peen, you could only get it once. So, at some point, you would have someone that already got it as #1, and they would not then get it again. |
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Posted On: 11/11/2009 4:44PM | View SoronTheBeast's Profile | # | ||||||
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Let’s do this and call this e-peen “The Bobbitt” and it reduces your e-peen length by 50%. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/11/2009 8:22PM | View Fatquack's Profile | # | ||||||
SoronTheBeast Posted:
That’s just quibbling over the polarity of the integer to be applied. My question was, why apply any integer at all? |
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Posted On: 11/12/2009 10:47AM | View Sneaky27's Profile | # | ||||||
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Sneaky27 Posted:
Applying a negative length would get the top person “out of the way” and allow someone else to win it the next day. It would make that leader board more dynamic, and less static. |
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Posted On: 11/12/2009 10:53AM | View SoronTheBeast's Profile | # | ||||||
SoronTheBeast Posted:
Only in the short term. As soon as all the players within X inches of the leader gain the peen the leaderboard becomes static once again. This is still only rewarding those that have been playing FWZ longer than the rest, much like every other leaderboard. This is still a bad idea that will only reward those that have been here the longest, how many being decided by whatever value is bumigned to X. Make X to great, and it devalues the peen and the leaderboard. Make it too small and you lose any dynamic you may have been looking for. Why not just petition ET to remove the bonus 3” we all start with and give a meaningless peen to those that were logged in that day? It’s the same thing as this meta-peen of yours and will have about the same impact. |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 10:10AM | View Sneaky27's Profile | # | ||||||
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SoronTheBeast Posted:
are you serious?
If that happens it means it rotates in 3 days between scully, Amasius. Then scully will be on top again sooner or later, though I guess no one will complain about that.
It will give Jmac a chance to be on the 2nd place for a while, then he’ll maybe top scully only to be cut again and be put again on the 3rd place.
aka: your suggestion makes 0 sense. |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 10:21AM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||
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The idea would be that it would make it so the person at the top would have a smaller E-Peen. Instead of having to get a E-Peen of 28<, which is more or less impossible because lots of E-Peens you can’t get any more, you would have to get a E-Peen of (28-X)< whatever X was. If X = 2, it would cycle through the top three. If X was 50% of your current E-Peen, it would cycle through many more.
The point being, however, that at the moment, its not cycling at all. You would have to get E-Peens you CAN’T get to make it to the top. Making it impossible, and static.
And I do find the argument “It will not change because it would change and then be the same again, only lower.” To not make any sense at all. Maybe someone could explain to me how making it POSSIBLE to get to the top is “no change” from the current situation. ‘Cuz I don’t get it. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 11:33AM | View SoronTheBeast's Profile | # | ||||||
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SoronTheBeast Posted: |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 11:36AM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||
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SoronTheBeast Posted: Current situation: the top of the leaderboard is unattainable because people have gigantic epeens, including many peens that newcomers can’t get because they weren’t there for various events.
Proposed solution: reduce the length of the leader’s peen
Outcome: Head of the leaderboard stands at a lower, but still unattainable (for most) level.
Unless you’re proposing a mbumive reduction, in which case a lot of people will very temporarily be at the top of the leaderboard, and then it’ll settle out so that the top is much lower, but people still have to compete with semi-professional peenwhores for the extra inches past wherever the top of the leadboard ends up.
In either case, eventual outcome: The top of the leaderboard is unattainable for most players. |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 12:00PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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You know, it doesn’t make any difference. Arguing for or against it is as pointless as arguing any other peen or potential peen. Any pixelated game reward is going to make people happy, unhappy or indifferent.
The only reason for making such a peen would be for the entertainment value of having a peen that chops off some length.
EDIT: man-man Posted: This will always be the case. Go look through the peen list. Besides the consecutive dom, forums and job board peens, once the base game has been completed there are very few players willing to put in any effort to get bonus peens. Chai as a Kite has been attainable for a minimum of 8 months and only 102 characters have it. Clearly there is a point where a certain amount of effort deters people. scully edited this message on 11/13/2009 1:13PM |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 1:05PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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Well, scully, I would think your thoughts on this would be most useful, since this would effect you the most. (and you also clearly know the most about E-Peens) man-man Posted:I feel there would be a ‘middle ground’ reduction. A number that would both make the leaderboard competitive, but would not be a Bobbitt. Something >2, but <50% man-man Posted:Well, there could be another fix in a few years when this happens again. (which, of course, it would)
But, perhaps scully is right and nobody really cares. Its not like I’m bucking for the top any time soon. It was just an idea that struck me. If topping the leaderboards for the first time incurred a penalty it would be easier for new players to top them. And: scully Posted:was a reason as well Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 1:55PM | View SoronTheBeast's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hey, I like this idea – I’d get a peen and be king for a day. Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/13/2009 2:30PM | View Amasius's Profile | # | ||||||
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SoronTheBeast Posted: You missed my point. The only point in this would be for the comedy.
The only thing that makes the top of any of the leader boards accessible is players quitting or mbumive game changes. This peen would not in any way make the top spots more accessible for new players unless it was a huge negative number. -2.0” would impact 2 characters. -10.0” would only impact the top 23 characters. |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 12:30AM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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If there was a “got every peen” peen, could you ever get it? |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 10:30AM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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man-man Posted:
No, because of the clbum dependent peens.
And basically, yeah, bad idea. Mainly for the reason Scully mentioned. |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 11:03AM | View Skyman747's Profile | # | ||||||
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i dont see what youre all arguing about the people who are at the top are the top because they earned it |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 11:05AM | View cya's Profile | # | ||||||
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 12:16PM | View Fie's Profile | # | ||||||
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scully Posted: Well, by “new players” I really meant ‘non-you’ players. You’ve been at the top of that leaderboard for a long long time. And the gap between 1st and 2nd is pretty big. Lets face it, most likely one of the reasons many player’s aren’t trying to top any leaderboards, is they can’t. Hypothetically, I could play this game hours a day, every day, and I still could not top the leaderboard, or the E-Peen leaderboard, and it would not be because I was not trying as hard as others, or because I’m not as good a player as others. (again, hypothetically Log in to see images! Its because its IMPOSSIBLE to get some of the E-Peens. In other words, I would need a time machine to bet you, scully.
The leaders on the leaderboards are too far ahead of everyone. I think the gap should be smaller to give people the illusion that they could top it. IMO, any game that is set up so ‘new’ players simply can’t win no matter how much time they put in over an extended period of time, is flawed. I am guessing its also one of the reasons people aren’t trying as hard as they could be. Why bother trying if you can’t? Now, I’m not saying I want to top any leaderboards today or tomorrow, but I would like to at least THINK that if I played this game for a year or two I could. That it’s possible. ATM, I don’t think I could. ‘Course, that could be because of my lack of understanding.
(Additionally, this post sounds too serous as I’m reading it over. Its not mean to be. I’m not planning on personally putting in hours a day at this game for years on end one way or another. I’m really just writing this to understand the leaderboard system better and to see if it something I should be ‘shooting for’ or if I should just forget it now, and not bother.) |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 3:14PM | View SoronTheBeast's Profile | # | ||||||
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this has been discussed so many times i don’t understand why this thread keeps going |
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Posted On: 11/14/2009 4:12PM | View ChilePepino's Profile | # | ||||||
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