[CLOSED] Wait, so if an apprentice gets banned...

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DarkDespair5 Posted:

But does this make him a bad apprentice/person?

Chawin Posted:

AtomicScripter has made many posts which do not seem to represent the attitude that apprentices were meant to be giving.
I would quote some, but many were in the secret forum.

Just because he gave you BP and held a good contest does not mean he should be an apprentice.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:14PM

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If an apprentice starts posting pain series images all over the place and tubmail-spamming people 100+ times, that’d be different and they should be permabanned like everyone else.

I think CZ is looking for ability, not morals.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:15PM

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DarkDespair5

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Permatard Posted:

If an apprentice starts posting pain series images all over the place and tubmail-spamming people 100+ times, that’d be different and they should be permabanned like everyone else.

I think CZ is looking for ability, not morals.

Rules, but whatever. I think CZ should pick people on the basis of how kick bum they can make things, not on whether they are general pricks..

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:16PM

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Invariel

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Part of the job of an Apprentice is working with other Apprentices, as well as the Auditors and Advisors. If a person proves himself (or herself) to be incapable of working with others, or gives off a vibe whereby they cannot be worked with, it is probably best for that person to be removed as an Apprentice before any real work needs to be done.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:20PM

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DarkDespair5

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Invariel Posted:

Part of the job of an Apprentice is working with other Apprentices, as well as the Auditors and Advisors. If a person proves himself (or herself) to be incapable of working with others, or gives off a vibe whereby they cannot be worked with, it is probably best for that person to be removed as an Apprentice before any real work needs to be done.

That’s a good point, although that person could just work in a sandbox and get no say on the final synthesis of his/her work with others’.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:23PM

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Invariel

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That then heavily limits what the person can be asked to do or, in some cases, sign up for, reducing the effectiveness of the person further.

If a task were given, for example, to come up with three characters with different voices that needed to interact for the purposes of a storyline mission, one person might come up with the scenario and three separate people would be asked to write for each of the characters. All of the people involved in writing the mission would need to consult with each other, for clarification, suggestions and suchlike.

One person could probably try to do all of it himself (or herself), but would come up with something far less interesting than the four people working together.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:40PM

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CoreyJess

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You guys are missing the point. I do not believe he should be removed (from the apprentice program, and even this site) for any of his posts. I believe there are certain people who should not frequent (or god forbid, write for) sites of this nature. I, for example, would never allow my children to frequent FW.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:42PM

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DarkDespair5

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CoreyJess Posted:

I, for example, would never allow my children to frequent FW.

Even if they’re able to handle it? Even this very good point is subjective.

“Can’t work well with others” is quite hard to define.

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cya

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DarkDespair5 Posted:

”Can’t work well with others” is quite hard to define.

Insulting other members in a well working team is a starter.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 1:57PM

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DarkDespair5 Posted:

Even if they’re able to handle it? Even this very good point is subjective.
“Can’t work well with others” is quite hard to define.

I don’t think AS was able to handle it. He got trolled and went a little crazy. Not bumhurt, crazy.

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PhineasPoe Posted:

I don’t think AS was able to handle it. He got trolled and went a little crazy. Not bumhurt, crazy.

Wait, what did he do?

-MLF- edited this message on 05/23/2009 2:41PM

Posted On: 05/23/2009 2:37PM

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Posted On: 05/23/2009 2:48PM

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MeatLoafFan Posted:

Wait, what did he do?

Saying how stupid everyone was, how Corey was too stupid to be an apprentice (even though Corey is one also). They he wanted someone perma-banned.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 2:48PM

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Raepdog Posted:

Saying how stupid everyone was, how Corey was too stupid to be an apprentice (even though Corey is one also). They he wanted someone perma-banned.

I went to his profile and saw some trolling in cd, so I was like, wait, he just did some light trolling, why all of this…

Posted On: 05/23/2009 3:02PM

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CoreyJess

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Johnny Mac Posted:

Everything has been settled in a very sound manner. There is no more issue. Log in to see images!

Posted On: 05/23/2009 3:16PM

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It's actually an honor to be pranked, it means someone spent real money on you. Sir.

Permatard Posted:

And how will this be objectively judged? If I accidentally post nudity in GD because I’m out of phase *one day* is it trolling or a slip up? What if someone’s a generally clumsy and inattentive but also nice and smart person? The mods also very greatly in what they consider trolling (they are different people after all).

have you seen his recent posts since becoming apprentice?

Posted On: 05/23/2009 3:34PM

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AntiRules187 Posted:

have you seen his recent posts since becoming apprentice?

Some of his new posts are a bit out of hand I agree.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 3:59PM

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Invariel

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Can we Thread Dead! this please?

Posted On: 05/23/2009 4:10PM

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CoreyJess Posted:

You guys are missing the point. I do not believe he should be removed (from the apprentice program, and even this site) for any of his posts. I believe there are certain people who should not frequent (or god forbid, write for) sites of this nature. I, for example, would never allow my children to frequent FW.

this this and this.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 4:18PM

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Invariel Posted:

Can we Thread Dead! this please?

yes, yes we can. and now it is.

Posted On: 05/23/2009 4:26PM

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