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There was a bit of discussion in idc this evening regarding the extreme advantage that Permanoobs have.
Permanoobs get 4 Clbum Warfare forums, and they can speed low-level forums fine.
The problems: 1. Given the power of pistachio streaking in Domination it is ridiculous that one clbum be allowed to extend their streak beyond all other clbumes. I am aware that not every player excels in Domination, but a good portion of the end game players are involved.
2. Access to all the clbum forums makes their solo vanilla virtually impossible to interrupt. The only players with a chance at this are in fact other Permas or re-res (also overpowered due to the 4 forum access.)
3. The top of the line attacks for Permas are text based – this gives them a huge speed advantage on the lower end forums. Additionally they have three “1 refresh” attacks where most of the normal clbumes only have two.
4. New uber-powered equipment via itembuildr has radically closed the stat gap.
Why are Permanoobs (and of course re-res), the “challenge” clbum, being positioned with such blazingly epic power? Everyone is complaining about the troll power curve, but if you look at the Domination leaderboard you will find that Permas and re-res are steadily moving up the ranks since the release of Episode 2. Hell, 6th place on the medals leader board is held by a re-re! |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 4:53AM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
Nerf Permanoobs!
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 4:55AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Simple solution – Give all clbumes access to clbum-warfare forums. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 4:57AM | View swine's Profile | # | ||||||
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swine Posted:
Agreed. Should be part of beating Ep. 2. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:03AM | View OrsonScottCard's Profile | # | ||||||
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I see that someone has already spent their own money to make sure I don’t live that down. That statement was intended to be in the context of countering was’s statement that Emos were the most powerful because they can take Geronimo. My position is that Trolls are currently mbumively overpowered. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:15AM | View zagerblag's Profile | # | ||||||
I don’t know if it’s just me but I find it hard to pwn level 32-35 forums even at max offense. Or maybe I just need better moars and stuff… |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:16AM | View nashcash's Profile | # | ||||||
swine Posted: ^ |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:17AM | View zigzagoon's Profile | # | ||||||
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nashcash Posted:
High-level forums require a significant Ego investment. I don’t know how much Permanoobs need, but I use about 4000 Ego. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:18AM | View zagerblag's Profile | # | ||||||
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zagerblag Posted:
i have 15k ego and im not max level or moared up |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:20AM | View Leechbait's Profile | # | ||||||
zagerblag Posted:
Lets try to keep this on topic, please. And I didn’t say that. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:20AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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was Posted:
Yes, you did. You stated that Trolls were not overpowered, and that it was in fact Emos that were the most powerful because they could take Geronimo. I left chat, so I can’t quote you, though. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:21AM | View zagerblag's Profile | # | ||||||
zagerblag Posted:
Please. If you have nothing to say about the topic, don’t post in this thread. edit:By the way I still have the chat open. I can give you the log if you want. twas edited this message on 04/02/2009 5:26AM |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:22AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
i dont know what kind of leet equips you guys are using but when i try to pwn forums the same level as i am it takes like ten hits to pwn one thread (except when recipes and ophelia are ready ofc)
it is incredibly slow and tiresome |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:23AM | View zigzagoon's Profile | # | ||||||
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zigzagoon Posted:
You are only level 17, that makes a huge difference. When you level cap you have a lot more upgrade points available. |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:25AM | View scullyangel's Profile | # | ||||||
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low level char in dom balance discussion what is happneig |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:26AM | View Leechbait's Profile | # | ||||||
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Given the power of pistachio streaking in Domination it is ridiculous that one clbum be allowed to extend their streak beyond all other clbumes. By 40-something scoops. So what? It’s balanced by the lack of lemons, because obviously Permas are much worse in speedruns.
Access to all the clbum forums makes their solo vanilla virtually impossible to interrupt. The only players with a chance at this are in fact other Permas or re-res (also overpowered due to the 4 forum access.) No, it’s only 4 anchors per streak. How bad is this?
The top of the line attacks for Permas are text based – this gives them a huge speed advantage on the lower end forums. Additionally they have three “1 refresh” attacks where most of the normal clbumes only have two. No, this is irrelevant, because the attack power is still low. Plus text-based means lower speed compared to image-based with ad-blocked imaged. Also, the fastest attacks are hacker’s. Would you propose to nerf them even more?
New uber-powered equipment via itembuildr has radically closed the stat gap. No, this is irrelevant, because the attack power is still low. The Offense is simply a modifier. You can’t get the ridiculous damage without raising the initial Attack damage value.
Why are Permanoobs (and of course re-res), the “challenge” clbum, being positioned with such blazingly epic power? Because they are the challenge clbum. You must be rewarded at list somehow for spending endless weeks farming for Cred.
In fact, the only thing that improved Permanoob gameplay was the Kyoubai. With all that .moars it became a bit easier to level up. But wait, let’s take look at all those top-brackets. Is the “after-Kyoubai generation” of newbies involved? No. It’s mostly vets who try getting medals with Permanoobs. They put enourmous amount of effort into making their character lvl 35 and being able to get some medals. So why not? Inconnu edited this message on 04/02/2009 5:27AM |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:26AM | View Inconnu's Profile | # | ||||||
scullyangel Posted:obviously yes but the later forums are also more difficult so i’m guessing that it evens out and pwning a level 35 forum as a level 35 permanoob would be just as slow
in the context of domination though, i can see how the access to unique forums is an advantage, which is why we should do what swine is saying |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:27AM | View zigzagoon's Profile | # | ||||||
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was Posted:
Permanoobs aren’t overpowered. Their extra forums cannot compensate for their exceedingly weak attacks. Their streak advantage is minor. Dom is already about backup, not individual play, anyway. This thread is clearly a joke, and does not belong in Game Discussion. zagerblag edited this message on 04/02/2009 5:35AM |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:28AM | View zagerblag's Profile | # | ||||||
zagerblag Posted:
I don’t know why you directed this post at me? Or Edited out your little hidden message to me, as well. twas edited this message on 04/02/2009 5:43AM |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:33AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
loli got ninjaed GS49 edited this message on 04/02/2009 5:37AM |
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Posted On: 04/02/2009 5:34AM | View GS49's Profile | # | ||||||