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After several grind-filled months, I’ve finally come to what should be more-or-less my final Troll build. Feel free to taste the fruits of my labors:
Upgrades: You Little ****™ Starter Pack Level 4 Evil Level 9 T.R.O.L.L. Power Level 2 Egomania Level 7 Offense Level 47 Luck o’ the Filthy fine upstanding member of society Level 1 (or Thrift Shopper Level 1) Recipes for Disaster (occasionally useful in forums like DENSA Low IQ Society, where Shock Sites sometimes leaves too many Pwnage Points over for Post Personal Information but not enough to warrant using Political Flamebait) Equipment: Book: What Do You Call a Democrat at the Bottom of the Ocean? Computer: PruneServ™ Dogreat timesent File: INCIT photos to remove for being patently unfunny.sdoc Fetish: Tumorous Kidney Glbumes: Versnatche™ Earbleeders Music File: pink floyd – darkside full album (ttly syncs w/ wzrd of oz at 2:43 awesome!!!).h Picture File: Where Da Gold At (Map).xpeg Program File: useless program that only wastes space.exec Special Item: Master Ball* Surgical Procedure: Tonsil Regeneration Video File: ****.MILF.asian.mammary glands.great timesshot.latina.interracial.anal.girls.dvda Web Spider: Simple Web Spider™ *Or a Wireless Headset, hahahahahaha **** you Attributes: Ego: 703 Douchebaggery: 780 Offense: 164 Defense: 178 Luck: 24 (or 23) Frugality: 22 (or 23) Charisma: 47 Upkeep: 1 Damage: Political Flamebait without Racial Tension: 4738 Political Flamebait with Racial Tension: 5142 Shock Sites without Racial Tension: 2978 Shock Sites with Racial Tension: 3232 With Racial Tension, Political Flamebait will now take out a Cosplay Central thread 100% of the time, and even without it, PF will kill a thread nearly all of the time. Shock Sites with Post Personal Information will be sufficient for a two-hit kill during the cooldown period. A twelve-thread instance will nearly always take 18 or 19 turns to defeat (ignoring healing), with the Troll being vulnerable to attack after six or seven of those turns respectively. On the defense side, Cosplay Central does an average of slightly less than 300 points per hit, meaning that the Troll can comfortably take two hits before needing to heal and does not have to worry about healing more often than is necessary. Using the estimate of Cosplay Central hitting half of the time, a Troll should expect to use three 5-HTPs on average during a twelve-thread instance. During a six-thread instance, the Troll would expect not to use any healing items at all on average. With the Ego- and Defense-boosting effects of the Master Ball, it may now be possible to remove another level from Egomania with no difficulties. Any benefits from this would be rather small, however. Man, I love being a Troll. Pluvius edited this message on 04/05/2009 6:49PM |
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Posted On: 03/15/2009 11:42PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
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That’s pretty impressive, what can you get luck/charisma up to using other moar files? How about frugality? |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 12:07AM | View Andy_Dextruss's Profile | # | ||||||
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I personally do not like using consumables (speedruns… ), so I am willing to sacrifice a little offense for my build. Next time I respec though I’ll probably take a couple more points out of ego.
Ego 3225 Douchebaggery 880 Offense 130 Defense 131 Luck 23 Frugality 15 Charisma 33 Upkeep 1 |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 12:49AM | View CaptainDDL's Profile | # | ||||||
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I’m running just over 2000 Ego, and with 123 Offense/Defense, it’s plenty. Bear in mind I also have a lot of points wasted towards Frugality, so you could still get the Offense even higher. Each point in Offense really only adds 28 points of Damage to an un-Fapped Political Flamebait, so at some point, it’s just not worth the 12 Upgrade points for another 100 points of damage. |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 1:08AM | View Acid Flux's Profile | # | ||||||
Andy_Dextruss Posted:
You can get up to +34 Luck or Charisma or +33 Frugality using .moar files. Don’t ask me what the best possible combination of the three would be.
CaptainDDL Posted:
My build is actually better for speedruns than an Egocentric build. The only forums in which you have to worry about Ego are Cosplay Central and The Extremely Specific Fetish Emporium. I don’t know precisely about the latter, but I do know it’s very similar to the former, and as I said above, Cosplay Central doesn’t usually require healing during a speedrun. Your times won’t be as consistent as with your build, but they’ll often be faster. An Egocentric build would actually be better for saving money while grinding out useless program or doing untimed jobs in those two forums.
Now that I think about it, it might be easier if I break it down for you another way. I’m guessing it takes you twelve turns to pwn a six-thread Cosplay Central, right? My build only takes ten turns. That means that even if you heal twice, you’ll still be making roughly the same time as you would be with your build, and having to heal twice or more in a six-thread instance would be unusual anyway. Pluvius edited this message on 03/16/2009 2:05AM |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 2:00AM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
I run my stats very similar with a difference in moar files. But with the Fetish forum having a pwnage up to 10,000 I bring my ego to around 1,000. |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 3:17AM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Why have a “final” build when you can change your build every four days to suit your needs? Any points into Ego are a complete waste on forums with levels below 32 (with proper gear of course), you’ll want more luck on most of the forums you can kill in one hit anyway (better .moars), and maybe a frugality build once in a while, etc etc. |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 5:15AM | View Robert James Fis...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Is it really a speedrun build? I can’t find your name on level 30+ forums speedrun leaderboards though. |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 9:44AM | View quangntenemy's Profile | # | ||||||
male reproductive organ Liquor Posted:
That’s not really helpful if you’re doing more than one thing in four days. My build is one that’s probably the best for the player who just wants a good, well-rounded Troll that’s reasonably suited to the vast majority of gameplay experiences presently available. It’s not for min-maxers; they tend to come up with their own builds anyway.
quangntenemy Posted:
I’m on the first page of a few of them, but I’m not a prolific speedrunner because (1) the site speed has been inadequate lately, (2) I tend to stick to SGB and HOFF, and (3) I don’t actively go for speedruns. Pluvius edited this message on 03/16/2009 9:15PM |
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Posted On: 03/16/2009 9:09PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
Updated with the effects of the latest crazy itembuildr product. |
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Posted On: 04/05/2009 6:50PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
So is this really just the best build to pwn Cosplay Central for a troll character? |
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Posted On: 04/05/2009 6:54PM | View twas's Profile | # | ||||||
It’s worked really well for me. None of my times on the speedrun board lately were in a six-thread instance; I believe the two top ones were both in sevens. Today (after getting the Master Ball) I didn’t get very fast times but that’s because I pwned ten-thread instances (used one 5-HTP on each for the record).
Of course, this build works very well in general on high-level forums. I’ve gotten good times in SGB lately and today I got good times in DENSA. It works in HOFF reasonably well too, but I haven’t gotten a low thread count to test it there yet. |
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Posted On: 04/05/2009 7:01PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
sacrificing ego and DB for mbumive offense and defense is a very good strategy indeed. I was trying for that build, the only problem is that I cant get the items I want. I really wanted to succeed on speed runs. |
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Posted On: 04/05/2009 9:35PM | View warjoke's Profile | # | ||||||