I have an idea for a replacement for the abuse filter.

Give every flezz a serial number. If anyone owns a flezz with a serial number, mark it with their name. Make it so that you cannot do anything that would put two alts on the same serial number.

There, now no abuse by proxy.

And as for the “oh noes theill make illegal alts” issue, they would get banned for illegal alts anyway, even without abuse.

The mods are trolling you. They stole PayPal’s customer management system and have employed it for maximum damage.

Big Brother Posted:

I have an idea for a replacement for the abuse filter.

Give every flezz a serial number. If anyone owns a flezz with a serial number, mark it with their name. Make it so that you cannot do anything that would put two alts on the same serial number.

There, now no abuse by proxy.

huh???

this wouldn’t work cause if each flezz has a serial number and you mark it, then if you sell something and get someone elses flezz, then two names would be marked. that wouldn’t prevent the abuse, because what if it is a legal transaction. there would be two marks, and thus not workingness.

Big Brother Posted:

I have an idea for a replacement for the abuse filter.

Give every flezz a serial number. If anyone owns a flezz with a serial number, mark it with their name. Make it so that you cannot do anything that would put two alts on the same serial number.

There, now no abuse by proxy.

And as for the “oh noes they’ll make illegal alts” issue, they would get banned for illegal alts anyway, even without abuse.

If anyone fines the following words trollsy I’m sorry.

That makes NO ****ING SENSE. The problem is with amounts, putting codes on flezz would only take time, and maybe even kill the servers. And where the hell are you getting proxy from?

Realistically, a better way to fix the abuse filter is have it track how many instances of a .moar file (not junk, or NPC shop items) is to track how often a file is auctioned on kyoubai. If there are no instances of a file on kyoubai at any point in the last two weeks (for example), it should be able to be sold for any price whatsoever. If there are, say, ten instances of the file in the last two weeks, it shouldn’t be sellable for more than, say 200% of the median price over the last two weeks.

Or something like that.

It’s terribly frustrating to have one of the rarest files in the game confiscated for abuse when the auction only went for a couple of million flezz, which is just a couple of weeks worth of deliveries.

Edit: Also, if a moderator is reading this. I’d really like that file. Possibly that fact is already illustrated that I bid more than other people in this auction, but sometimes repetition is not entirely unreasonable.

Yeah junk items are the only real abused thing.

It may not even be that bad to also keep Episode 1 Clbum equipment off too, since anyone who would need it can get it.

Big Brother Posted:

I have an idea for a replacement for the abuse filter.

Give every flezz a serial number. If anyone owns a flezz with a serial number, mark it with their name. Make it so that you cannot do anything that would put two alts on the same serial number.

There, now no abuse by proxy.

And as for the “oh noes theill make illegal alts” issue, they would get banned for illegal alts anyway, even without abuse.

Um…Hate to break it to you, but you can’t bid on your alts auctions. And illegal alts are difficult to trace, and many exceptions exist.

Apparently, according to ET, things that have sold very few, or zero, times before have no guidelines for what is an acceptable sale price, so they seem to always get flagged for abuse.

Personally, I think ET could resolve this by looking at all items without enough results, determining how many sales each of them will need to have an acceptable guideline for the abuse checker, and then put that many up for sale himself, pre-marking the auctions as non-abuse (if his auctions even get checked).

With all this junk happening I’m inclined to say…

GET RID OF THE ****ING ABUSE FILTER.

scullyangel Posted:

I’ve had that happen to my auctions, too, and I know it is frustrating. It will in fact be seen less and less as we see files auctioned. 1 week ago I put up a Blood Spatter and it got flagged, by this week when I put one up the system had enough data to know that there wasn’t a problem – even though the file went for more than the first one.

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the system to never flag an auction for abuse if it only is aware of one or two other times its been auctioned, and have the abuse filter not kick in until there’s a quorum of data acquired? I mean, what’s more likely “A rare file is listed on Kyoubai, I bet collectors will all want to get it and it will command a high price” or “I suspect this file has not been auctioned off before, so I will use it in a fiendish scheme to transfer flezz and hope that collectors simply do not notice it.”?

The abuse filter may not need to go away, but it should probably work differently. I wonder what percentage of auctions flagged as abuse actually are a clear cut, or apparent, case of abuse. I mean, if you have five people with IPs in 4 states and 1 Canadian province bidding on an item, no matter how much it ends up selling for, there’s probably no actual abuse going on.

Would it save time to just file a bug report before the auction even closes? For example “This is the only time the Duke Nukem file has ever been listed on Kyoubai, and it only drops in PP:RotM which is no longer available to me. I am going to bid tends of millions of flezz on it, because I’m rich and I want to win. When you close this auction for abuse, please refer to this message, and undo that.”?