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Bug - 1 Deposit doesn't make sense

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

why does it give the deposit back when the item sells? shouldn’t it give the deposit back when the item does not sell?

Johnny Mac

Avatar: 37704 2022-12-12 08:49:44 +0000
66

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 60 Troll

I grant you an bumhole x

Incentive to sell things that will actually sell and not **** imo, not sure what ET thinks the purpose it though.

Bigandtasty

Avatar: 67579 Sat Jan 17 15:30:20 -0500 2009
12

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

it gives it back only on successful sales to encourage reasonable reserve prices, etc.

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

I know but it doesn’t make sense. Isn’t this the fee for using the auctionhouse? If my item doesn’t sell then the auctionhouse did a bad job, why am I paying it? Shouldn’t I pay when they actually do a service to me?

Also then because the deposit is returned if the item sells you can also use ruses such as setting buyout price ridiculously high so it looks like your item is worth a lot. And setting the minimum price so high that the Auction starts at the level you want. Both of these things also makes it easier for people to transfer flezz between accounts because it would only require 2 people instead of 3 to set this up.

DesdiPhoenix

Avatar: 75442 Wed Nov 12 18:57:30 -0500 2008
4

[T3H L33T HACK3RZ]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

Why is every thread of yours ****ing about FWZ? Either be happy with it or shut up. Seriously.

DesdiPhoenix was banned for this post by Evil Trout

DesdiPhoenix edited this message on 07/23/2009 2:25PM

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Why is every thread of yours ****ing about FWZ? Either be happy with it or shut up. Seriously.

Says http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/search_by_character/DesdiPhoenix

DesdiPhoenix

Avatar: 75442 Wed Nov 12 18:57:30 -0500 2008
4

[T3H L33T HACK3RZ]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

Inertia Posted:

Says http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/search_by_character/DesdiPhoenix

Most all of them aren’t ****ing about anything. I certainly don’t **** about FWZ sucking. I DO **** about stupid people. That’s certainly not limited to this game. I hate dumb people everywhere I go. Try again FalconFour.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

itt: too much trolling by DesdiPhoenix

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
20

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Troll

KYOUBAI IS SUPER-SERIOUS BUSINESS

Er, back on topic, I see where Inertia is coming from. The idea of a deposit or transfer fee makes sense for real world online auctions. The auction house has to make money based on usage of the site, not necessarily the specific transaction amount.

IMO, it should work like this for Kyoubai:

To list a transaction, you have to pay a deposit fee (calculated based on minimum bid & reserve OR buyout, not both)

If the item does not sell, Kyoubai keeps this deposit fee as compensation. Failed auctions are harmful to Kyoubai’s reputation, so this encourages Sellers to list auctions with reasonable buyouts and reserves.

If the item does sell, then Kyoubai refunds the deposit (minus 0.1% of the item’s final selling price as a transaction fee)

In other words, Kyoubai should be seeing a cut of all transactions, good or bad, as a fee for use of the service.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Acid Flux Posted:

Kyoubai should be seeing a cut of all transactions, good or bad, as a fee for use of the service.

This. Details I don’t care about, but the use of the service should always result in Flezz being drained out of the economy.

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

So there’s this rare item that I want to sell but I don’t want to sell for less than say  4 mil.

I could put a reserve price on it but it might not sell within 72 hours. So for every day it doesn’t sell I lose money. Shouldn’t I be free to sell at whatever price I wish?

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
24

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

I NEVER LEFT FORUMWARZ

Acid Flux Posted:

In other words, Kyoubai should be seeing a cut of all transactions, good or bad, as a fee for use of the service.

Signed. Nothing wrong about an additional Log in to see images! sink. You can either let Kyoubai keep the deposit no matter if the item is sold or not or you can let it take a small part of the final bid (like 1-3%). Also you could add some kind of additional fee for failed auctions.

Also I think that the fees are too small. They might be appropriate for low-tier items, but they’re way too small for decent .moar files.

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

and too high for absolute bottom tier like marbles

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