I have so much Flezz I don’t even know what to do with it and I’m new to the game. I don’t care if the items have been reduced.

meeeeeeeeee Posted:

Also, it does seem like alot of the nerfs have been specifically designed to hurt trolls, who are already underpowered for episode 2 (really, a clbum which specialises in defense, lol)

The market changes have hurt camwhores the most.

Testing showed that a 7cha emokid was getting the exact same deliveries for the exact same forums as a 58cha camwhore, but the camwhore equipment and sexiness restoring items cost twice as much as any other clbumes equipment.

Now, you’re free to argue that Ep2 wasn’t as kind to trolls as it was to other clbumes, but you haven’t really been nerfed all that much.

Evil Trout: Could we get a changelog page? I know you’re doing the proper developer thing and keeping a changelog, but we can’t actually see it. Making it public could resolve a lot of arguments.

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

The market changes have hurt camwhores the most.

Now, you’re free to argue that Ep2 wasn’t as kind to trolls as it was to other clbumes, but you haven’t really been nerfed all that much.

As far as pwning forums is concerned, my emo-alt seems to be the weakest character. My troll and hacker breeze through almost every forum, with my camwhore- there aren’t many forums I can’t one-hit. My emo really has to fight through the forums.

Canadian Kitten Posted:

As far as pwning forums is concerned, my emo-alt seems to be the weakest character. My troll and hacker breeze through almost every forum, with my camwhore- there aren’t many forums I can’t one-hit. My emo really has to fight through the forums.

I was talking about nerfs specifically. I completely understand that not every clbum was equally boosted by episode 2, but by the same token camwhores have been the hardest hit by the market corrections and thus the most nerfed.

Also, I said he was free to argue that Trolls got the short end of the stick, but that doesn’t mean I actually believe it.

^alt fail

meeeeeeeeee – I honestly think people are overestimating the chance they had at the leader board with the recent change to the way peens are valued. Unless ET confirms otherwise, a cap on peen length at 13.0” means that upper level peens will constantly be losing value as new players get them – when someone new acquires a peen it devalues it for those who already have it. Prior to the peen change there was no reason to prevent others from grabbing a peen, now allowing someone to jump ahead of you is an actual sacrifice.

I know damn well, I’m not the only one who has looked at the situation and realized that there is zero incentive to get out of the way. I’ve talked to several other players who are very aware that the new peen structure lends itself to a form of griefing for the sake of preserving rank.

We’ve played together for a long time and if I was the only one standing between you and the peen I’d have let you crawl over my flezz total, but how were you going to get everyone else to let you do it? With the deliveries capped at “x per forum” daily income is fixed to max delivery plus job income. Everyone grinding flezz is literally earning the same amount. How was progress actually going to happen?

The   owned by top Fleez Leatherboard players must be rebalanced too, don’t you think Log in to see images!

****ing tycoons.

Porco Rosso Posted:

With this change, will the threshold for getting antifreeze scoops from gamblebot remain at 10K? After a while I would think camwhores will be the only ones who can afford to gamble.

Quoted for fail. Camwhores don’t even get 1 more than anybody else once you can make 28+ forum runs. I don’t know if that holds AS true at lower level forums, but if you’re going for scoops then you’re going to already be able to do SW runs anyway.

scullyangel Posted:

We’ve played together for a long time and if I was the only one standing between you and the peen I’d have let you crawl over my flezz total, but how were you going to get everyone else to let you do it? With the deliveries capped at “x per forum” daily income is fixed to max delivery plus job income. Everyone grinding flezz is literally earning the same amount. How was progress actually going to happen?

In truth yes, the flezz peen had become alot like the forum visits one. Well anyway, my plan was to win by stealth. Roadblocks on the way (as usual, SG and her crazy antics) couldn’t be anticipated, but I was pretty close for a long while, which was incentive enough to stick with the same strategy. If the changes that were actually needed to stabilise the economy had been implemented, there would have been some edge to be had for making compromises elsewhere (like the usual one of not going for streaks) I was sticking it out to await the balance changes, but wasn’t expecting those balance changes to enjoy my chances whilst leaving the leaders intact. You saw here that ET didn’t anticipate that players were holding large amounts of flezz in items – that in turn means he didn’t take us into account when he made these changes.

I didn’t just lose the peen, I also lost my relative standing with players I was competing against (which is quite different to the consequences of the Obama tax) An annoucement of the change would have helped in this regard (again, different to the Obama tax) as then it wouldn’t have hurt anyone to an unfair degree – just those who aren’t paying attention, who are legitimate targets.

Flezz will presumably have a use at some point, or CZ have failed and we need a new currency (another word for a reset) If that’s the case and flezz does have meaning, then yes, this nerf hurt me and others unfairly, while players who sold all their junk escaped unscathed.

A minority of leaderboard competitors got penalised here, and it did nothing to fix the actual problem, which is that there’s nowhere for your flezz total to go but up. This change didn’t make anything better – getting worse at half the speed is still getting worse.

Nicco Posted:

Not, someone will hog the flezz board for months until he/she stops playing so someone else will hog the leaderboard, what is about the same what happened/happens to the most forums pwned board.

It’s different. To hog the Flezz leaderboard you need to sacrifice dom, and this is only done with alts dedicated for that specific task. Let’s hope that we don’t have so many of those.