iPods don;t last long enough. My wife had an 80Gig and it died after a year, but the $40 RCA that I had, is three years old and has survived being dropped in water numerous times, being dropped from high places, being abused by theiving little sisters, etc. It doesn’t have much space though, it as 258K and has an SD card slot that takes up to a 2Gig SD card. Creative players don’t survive getting dropped very well so if you have an active lifestyle stear clear of those too. I’m apparently getting a 16Gig Zune for Christmas so we’ll see how that goes.

In short is you have an active lifestyle and don’t mind carrying SD cards around, get a little RCA player. It will last a long time. If you aren’t active and don;t drop your player, get a creative zen.