Veer Posted:

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I’d prefer a time limit: you can only play a card every, say 30 seconds. That way the more cards you have the earlier you have to start playing them and thus are vulnerable to attacks. If you want to play 60 cards you’d have to begin half an hour before the dom round ends and it would allow for some interesting new offensive and defensive strategies especially if you can’t auto-equip your shields.

It would be cool if you can queue and time your cards beforehand but can change the succession whenever you want to. Then you don’t necessarily have to be online when the dom round ends (at least in the lower brackets) but are flexible enough to change your strategy whenever necessary.

Why would people keep scoops if they can’t auto-equip shields? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t get the logic. Either you keep all your scoops or none. It may be a promising tactic to keep all scoops in the lower brackets because it discourages many people and a few bumholes doesn’t matter, but even 500 scoops aren’t enough in the top brackets. If you are in the lead you get punished so you buy cards and another player has the most scoops and has to buy cards and so on, the old game.

If cards aren’t auto-equipable and you can only play one card every 30 secs you have to decide: if you are in danger of being bumholed a shield is the best choice. Otherwise a MI is better. If you have less cards than another player you can play your MIs, Switcheroos and maybe Thiefs first and then attack him because he probably can’t use his attack cards (if he has any), he’s busy playing MIs and shields to protect his scoops. I hope that the effect is that it’s harder for people to get all four medals, that ties are more difficult to do and even players with only a fistful of cards have a chance to get a trophy in the higher brackets with a little luck and a good strategy. More competition, more suspense, more fun.

There’s no doubt that the main balance problem now are the overpowered vanilla raids but a late lemon/pistachio run needs 12 visits (or at least 9 for pistachios) to be effective and that are visits you can’t use in raids so that would lessen the problem a little.

Amasius Posted:

Why would people keep scoops if they can’t auto-equip shields? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t get the logic. Either you keep all your scoops or none. It may be a promising tactic to keep all scoops in the lower brackets because it discourages many people and a few bumholes doesn’t matter, but even 500 scoops aren’t enough in the top brackets. If you are in the lead you get punished so you buy cards and another player has the most scoops and has to buy cards and so on, the old game.

If cards aren’t auto-equipable and you can only play one card every 30 secs you have to decide: if you are in danger of being bumholed a shield is the best choice. Otherwise a MI is better. If you have less cards than another player you can play your MIs, Switcheroos and maybe Thiefs first and then attack him because he probably can’t use his attack cards (if he has any), he’s busy playing MIs and shields to protect his scoops. I hope that the effect is that it’s harder for people to get all four medals, that ties are more difficult to do and even players with only a fistful of cards have a chance to get a trophy in the higher brackets with a little luck and a good strategy. More competition, more suspense, more fun.

There’s no doubt that the main balance problem now are the overpowered vanilla raids but a late lemon/pistachio run needs 12 visits (or at least 9 for pistachios) to be effective and that are visits you can’t use in raids so that would lessen the problem a little.

Basically by removing autoequipped shields and enforcing a card timer you make the min scoop dash impossible. Many of the people in the top pod will have between 20-50 modests. In order to deploy them they would need to start deploying roughly 20-30 minutes before time ends. However there are several designated blasters in the top pod. If I can use offense cards once per 30 seconds I can basically keep multiple people beatdown with shotguns and bumholes if they get above 10 scoops. Basically it becomes a game of whoever can manage to weather the ****storm.

However there are no limits on the number of scoops you can earn per minute. What many people would do is try to deploy vanilla meatshields during the week to absorb bumholes and then do last minute denture runs or try to time thier pistachio loops to end on wednesdays. Most of the bumholes in the bracket will be spent beating down the meatshields and presumably the late speedrun rush would become dominant.

I have to disagree about the meat shields. If any aspect of klan vanilla is the biggest problem, it is the meat shields. 300 scoops that no one cares about takes 30 bumholes to eliminate.

For the most part they are damn near non-playing characters (people who know they can’t make it to Dom end that week, alts, whatever) and in a vanilla klan they can have several hundred scoops that other players need to work through.

Not a real problem in the upper brackets, a problem in the lower brackets where players see it and just quit for the week. And, yeah, I think it’s lame that an entire bracket sees a tower and decides not to play when they could easily take it down if just a few of them bothered, but I see it happen quite a bit.