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Veer Posted:
Indeed. 10 hour raid FTW. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 3:20AM | View NOT Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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That 10 hour raid was indeed epic, but the problem with nerfing it would be it’d **** over every single small klan trying to raid. Effectively killing raiding in small or unmotivated klans. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 5:52AM | View Echuu's Profile | # | ||||||
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Echuu Posted: Cooldowns between raids.
Well, that was anti-climactic. Care to play again? |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 6:13AM | View Veer's Profile | # | ||||||
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I guess when thinking about it the antifreeze and vanilla thing is in fact the similar, both took a lot of time and effort but they differ in that retards can’t get vanilla due to that they have to perform well and not get kicked by their klan. And vanilla requires a lot more coordination. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 6:15AM | View Echuu's Profile | # | ||||||
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Echuu Posted:
That’s a joke… right? Raiding: Press one bumon when the leader tells you to. GOOD JOB! |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 10:47AM | View Goth_Jesus's Profile | # | ||||||
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Goth_Jesus Posted:We’ve kicked loads of retards that can’t click the right bumon when the leader says so. They’re called retards for a reason.
Raids are more about stamina these days anyways. Echuu edited this message on 06/15/2008 10:51AM |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 10:49AM | View Echuu's Profile | # | ||||||
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We don’t allow people to just leech. If they do not participate, they are kicked out of the raid. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 10:52AM | View Fatquack's Profile | # | ||||||
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Echuu Posted:
Exactly like gambling for antifreeze was. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 10:53AM | View Goth_Jesus's Profile | # | ||||||
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Goth_Jesus Posted:
AntiFreeze: Was limited by time since you can earn money and therefore had no real numerical limit.
Vanilla: Numerically limited by the number of visits available which is max 12*participants-11. Though to be honest I think most raids have about 15% falloff where we pwnd a 13th forum by mistake or lost forums down to 9-10 and had to use visits that gave no scoop reward.
Chocolate: Numerically limited only by (players*submissions)/5-1. Likewise, but until now there have been very few high scorers and nobody is screaming ‘bloody murder’ when this scoop category has the current highest limit.
Goth_Jesus Posted:
I do not see you scoring big on raids, which means you either fail at pressing that bumon. (BAD JOB). Or you just have nothing else to **** about when your parents are out of town. I Log in to see images! you.
Edited chocolate scoops for correct numbers). Westside Wizard edited this message on 06/15/2008 11:37AM |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 11:18AM | View Westside Wizard's Profile | # | ||||||
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You do realize that Goth_Jesus and myself are solo klan raiding to get our scoops ie that each of us are limited by the number of personal alts that we can throw into a raid. Due to the likelihood of someone else pwning two or more of our 12s at an given time we tend to lose efficiency vs a standard klan vanilla raid. On the brightside it’s much easier to coordinate getting pistachios and yellows during solo klan raids.
In all honesty I’m not a great domination player but Arktor’s ability to consistently get into the medals mix with his alts despite not being in a big domination klan indicates that he’s actually much better than virtually any other domination player.
Back to the original point of the thread before it became a big wank-off about the strength of vanilla. I do think the anti-freeze cap should be increased although it really won’t change much because every vanilla raider should have tons of for gambling as well. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 11:33AM | View The Grinning Man...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Wow, your nose must be really brown after that. Echuu edited this message on 06/15/2008 11:41AM |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 11:39AM | View Echuu's Profile | # | ||||||
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The Grinning Man Posted:
If you can’t manage pistachio and lemon during a klan raid, you’re doing it wrong. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 11:40AM | View spacekadt's Profile | # | ||||||
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The Grinning Man Posted:
Does not matter. This site looks to me like being built for multiple people working together and not for playing with oneself. (Yes I know it feels good to play with yourself but it will never get you laid). The likelihood of someone pwning more than one of your forums before you can reclaim 12 is no different than for any other klan. Surely you have discovered that you can pwn multiple forums with different characters simultaneously?
IMO male reproductive organed bumpickle (or whatever) is better than Arktor, but that is probably just a case of whose behind taste better to you.
Vanilla and Antifreeze are actually a bit polarized against each other since you are unable to pwn for high flezz forums all the time if you are in a raid and have to settle for low gains with the result being less money to gamle with. Of course you can choose a sixth level anchor and so on, but in reality the highest turnover rate is the lower level forums with essentially no flezz gain at all. This is also true if you want to manage pistachio and lemon. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 11:50AM | View Westside Wizard's Profile | # | ||||||
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The Grinning Man Posted:
Arktor’s a great and smart forumwarz player, no doubt. But much better than all the other dom players? pffft what the **** ever. If you want to say he’s the greatest solo player, then I definitely agree. But the rest of us enjoy being in klans and having fun with other people, raiding with them, and getting a crapton of scoops. Yay for social games? |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 12:21PM | View Genesis's Profile | # | ||||||
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Westside Wizard Posted:
Or I don’t want to spend 10 hours of my day raiding. Did you ever think about that?
Westside Wizard Posted:
Even given a huge stockpile of flezz, you will go broke sooner or later while gambling. It’s simple understanding of random numbers. You can earn hundreds of scoops first, but at the cost of flezz.
You use a huge stockpile of klan members in order to earn hundreds of scoops, at the cost of visits.
If you want to prove me wrong with regards to being able to earn money by gambling, then here’s a simple challenge: make it to the first page of the most flezz chart by the time the leaderboard next updates. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:20PM | View Goth_Jesus's Profile | # | ||||||
Summary: Forumwarz’ endgame is relegated to people who are willing to spend 10 hours straight clicking bumons and whose idea of a vibrant social life is typing text in chat rooms. Just as it is with every MMORPG on the planet.
I think we might need to face up to the likely possibility that this can’t be fixed without destroying Domination in the process. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:32PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
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You used to be able to make money by gambling. The nerf killed that AFAIK. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:32PM | View markchd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Pluvius Posted:
Since when is Forumwarz an MMO? I honestly don’t see how a nerf on raiding (say, only one raid [two hours] per week) would break domination. It would only put non-raiders at less of a disadvantage. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:37PM | View Goth_Jesus's Profile | # | ||||||
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Goth_Jesus Posted:
It doesn’t break domination, just klans. We have members from several time zones. Do they need to splinter into separate klans to raid? |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:39PM | View markchd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Pluvius Posted:
That’s a rather cynical attitude with which I disagree. Surely it must be possible to tweak the rewards for raiding to a point that it gives the dedicated few a well-deserved edge for their effort without completely dwarfing the competition in the process. |
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Posted On: 06/15/2008 4:58PM | DEAD fabulous person | # | ||||||