really.

AIDS woman's genitals Posted:

Yes. I’m seriously considering it.

Please stop, you’re scaring me.

AIDS woman's genitals Posted:

It’s not definite. But I have started to notice a lot of Christian people entering my life lately. And I’m starting to notice a lot of religious things around me. I got the train to collage today,and on a mbumive billboard was an advert for the Lord. I mean… come on! Could just be a coincidence Log in to see images!

There are a lot of Christian people in everyone’s life, there’s ****ing loads of Christians. That they’ve started to advertise too really shouldn’t have any bearing on what you believe.

Honest advice: ask yourself what you think is true, whether you think it is possible, plausible or likely that the claims made by the religious are how the universe works. Be careful to avoid the trap of wishful thinking; hoping or wishing for something should be separate from believing it to actually be the case. Above all, don’t sign up to a faith and belief system just because of some odd coincidences, especially not ones involving billboards (they’re there because someone paid for them to be there).

Or if you’re just taking the **** and think the whole Christian edifice is a self-serving power play wrapped around a lie, cushioned with a lot of empty promises and backed up by imaginary reasons for fear and guilt… then that’s cool, carry on.

man-man Posted:

There are a lot of Christian people in everyone’s life, there’s ****ing loads of Christians. That they’ve started to advertise too really shouldn’t have any bearing on what you believe.

Honest advice: ask yourself what you think is true, whether you think it is possible, plausible or likely that the claims made by the religious are how the universe works. Be careful to avoid the trap of wishful thinking; hoping or wishing for something should be separate from believing it to actually be the case. Above all, don’t sign up to a faith and belief system just because of some odd coincidences, especially not ones involving billboards (they’re there because someone paid for them to be there).

Or if you’re just taking the **** and think the whole Christian edifice is a self-serving power play wrapped around a lie, cushioned with a lot of empty promises and backed up by imaginary reasons for fear and guilt… then that’s cool, carry on.

Anythings plausible. That’s not to say I believe it. But aspects of the Christian life seem to be appealing. I (surprisingly) have morals. It’s just a case of whether they correspond or could be interpreted to a Christian value system.

Lee_Harvey_Oswald Posted:

lol didnt fingerz already do the i love jesus gimmick for a while

idk, but if I stop logging on after November 14th then you’ll know it’s not a gimmick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_vividness

& all causation fallacies.

srsly?

idk if i found jesus or something like that, fwz would probably be the last place where i’d announce it.

AIDS woman's genitals Posted:

idk, but if I stop logging on after November 14th then you’ll know it’s not a gimmick.

but please only after the 14th :3 so u can wish me a happy birthday (got on the 14th).

whatever you choose, i wish you the best & happiness

AIDS woman's genitals Posted:

I (surprisingly) have morals. It’s just a case of whether they correspond or could be interpreted to a Christian value system.

If you already have morals, what does it matter who they correspond with? Deciding to become a Christian just leaves you open to having other morals pushed at you by Christian “authorities”, and some of those morals suck sweaty donkey sack.

“Believing in” only those parts of a moral system that you already agree with anyway is redundant – you’d be choosing bits of Christian morality to match what you already think, so the Christianity wouldn’t add anything except confusion and doubt when it says something you don’t think is right. Or it might convince you of some really ****ty morals

(Protip: If you wake up one day and find that you’re covering up a pedo ring to protect the reputation of the church, or refusing a raped little girl surgery to save her from paralysis because it would mean aborting her enjoy-baby, or locking someone in a cellar for years because they have a nasty case of “demons”, you’ve probably been led astray by Christian Values™)

Srsly, go with your gut, if you’ve spent any time being socialised by halfway decent people then it’s just as good as anything you’re going to read in a musty old book, written before the acgreat timesulated moral wisdom of the past two thousand years had … acgreat timesulated.

fembot_ Posted:

Listen to man-man. Log in to see images!

Yeah, listen to that guy, right on.

While I’m here, I realised I left this alone last time around

AIDS woman's genitals Posted:

Anythings plausible. That’s not to say I believe it. But aspects of the Christian life seem to be appealing.

When you say anything’s plausible… religion tends to be built rather heavily on top of things that aren’t, normally speaking, possible, that defy physics as we know it, and can only be considered possible/plausible under the bumumption that a god exists who can break the rules and make them happen anyway. If you believe in god then yeah, anything is possible because that’s what omnipotence means, but it just pushes the question back – is god possible? I actually think not, because the definition of “god”, as provided by believers, is either self-contradicting or so vague as to be worthless. Without a proper definition of what god is, the argument about whether such a thing exists is pointless.

Example: the god described by christians is supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient; all powerful and all knowing. But if you know everything then you know what your future actions will be before you decide to carry them out, and are powerless to act differently. Logical flaw, one of many.

Even if you accept the definition provided, there’s normally also things in there that are just demonstrably not true. The christian version of god is supposed to answer prayers, which is not only inconsistent with the separate notion of god having a perfect plan (you expect to be able to change his mind?) but we can also show that prayer has no measurable effect on medical outcome, claim proved false.

I think it’s dumb to believe things without a decent reason to think that they’re true. I see no good reasons to think god exists and plenty of reasons to think he doesn’t, so I don’t believe. YMMV I guess, but I’d be interested to know what your reasoning is if you do jump on the god-wagon.

Although… “not to say I believe it. But aspects of the Christian life do seem to be appealing” suggests your reasoning isn’t along the lines of whether god is a possible thing or not, but about ‘the christian life’ ... what’s special about it? What do they do or have that the rest of us couldn’t if we wanted to? (Honest question).