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I beat Coral springs with only 4 consumables at level 9- way less than my camwhore & emo alts used at level 10.
Or at least less than I remember using. |
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Posted On: 04/14/2008 7:54PM | View Unintelligencer's Profile | # | ||||||
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Unintelligencer Posted:
Same with my Troll, I attacked with Standerd Comp, that mouse you get from the male reproductive organshot guy, and a baby seal skin coat at lv 10 and I used like 3 of those +100egos and 2 +50Douchebaggery PartyHard edited this message on 04/14/2008 8:47PM |
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Posted On: 04/14/2008 8:47PM | View PartyHard's Profile | # | ||||||
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Unintelligencer Posted:
Four bar forums are also in scoop range, after that it ends for us. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 3:40AM | View Healbot's Profile | # | ||||||
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I agree- I just got scoops in 3- 4 bar forums, and South Carolina. It’s not that hard. I think once the level caps are removed and we get a better attack or two, then the 6-bar forums will be accessible also. I just disagree with the premise of this thread that trolls are severely disadvantaged compared to the other clbumes. We’re just not capable of speedrunning the hardest forums. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 10:47AM | View Unintelligencer's Profile | # | ||||||
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Of course Trolls are at a disadvantage, look at our main stat, Defense. Yay, a meager 1% damage-reduction per point spent and 1.5% chance to dodge. Relying on throwing dice is something I’d rather leave to my Pen&Paper-pals, not when deciding if my Troll can or cannot pwn a 6 bar forum with 5 Smileprin XR or 7, and lose 10 or 20% durability.
People would surely be ****ed if Offense only gave a 1% attack damage increase per point and 1.5% to critically strike. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 12:48PM | View Healbot's Profile | # | ||||||
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Healbot Posted:
Change that to “1.5% to hit” and your comparison is more accurate. At least a non-critical strike (in most games, at least) still deals damage. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 1:52PM | View Arktor's Profile | # | ||||||
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Fwd Re Re Posted:i agre and y the hel r u guyz whining, i had 2 use 19 smileprin xrs to beat coral springs stfu plz Haley Wants Your Pants Snake edited this message on 04/15/2008 1:58PM |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 1:55PM | View Haley Wants Your...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Arktor Posted:
No, the analogy works perfectly with critical strikes, because with that kind of Offense function everyone would be forced to roll dice and desperately hope to pwn a thread before the backlash. Which is no fun. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 2:17PM | View Healbot's Profile | # | ||||||
The first troll I see with a max offense build and still can’t run anything I will believe this, until then max defense build trolls can stop whining. And use the right equipment obviously. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 5:24PM | View WetSocket's Profile | # | ||||||
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Defense sucks as do troll attacks. Maxing defense means pwning forums would take even longer and we would take more damage. I’m not convinced that a super high defense is worth the effort. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 5:34PM | View Bigguyinblack's Profile | # | ||||||
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WetSocket Posted: I tried a max offense build. It sucked horribly. I literally had to spend a week pwning headbangers just to get the flezz for a haxlrose |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 5:35PM | View Starfang_42's Profile | # | ||||||
Starfang_42 Posted: Then you did something wrong. Max offense works for all clbumes, as it increases the speed at which you beat forums. |
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 5:37PM | View WetSocket's Profile | # | ||||||
WetSocket Posted:
To be fair, it works better for some clbumes than others. You have to think of the difference in attacks that the clbumes have.
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Posted On: 04/15/2008 8:03PM | View Paraone's Profile | # | ||||||
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WetSocket Posted:
Going max Offense does work, albeit with smaller returns for Trolls. Our abilities lack the punch of Cam Whores, the scalability of Emo Kids and our base stat (sitting at 16 Defense right now without having spent a single point into it) could very well be considered useless.
I will test my current build, judging by the numbers there is virtually no difference between 16 and 21 Defense. |
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Posted On: 04/16/2008 7:41AM | View Healbot's Profile | # | ||||||
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An IDC conversation. Make of it what you will.
Bigguyinblack: FYI Trolls hate Memebusters. |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 6:46PM | View Bigguyinblack's Profile | # | ||||||
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Paraone Posted:
To be fair, that’s absurd. It has the exact same %increase for every clbum.
Bigguy: Just because you can’t beat Memebusters doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with trolls. Arktor edited this message on 04/22/2008 6:54PM |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 6:53PM | View Arktor's Profile | # | ||||||
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If you have an ability that adds +20% to damage and you do 60 damage you will do 12 extra damage. If you only deal 40 damage you will only deal 8 extra damage. Emo’s have a % damage on top of offence and Camwhores have stronger attacks. Offense does less for trolls because our base damage is lower. And I pwn Memebusters just fine, But it takes 3x as long as my Camwhore. |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 7:06PM | View Bigguyinblack's Profile | # | ||||||
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Bigguyinblack Posted:
Yes, that’s how percentages work. You might also notice that on a forum that takes 200 seconds to beat, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 167 seconds, or 23 less seconds. If it takes you 400 seconds, then with +20% damage it’ll only take you 334, or 46 less seconds.
Clearly offense is overpowered for trolls. |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 7:12PM | View Arktor's Profile | # | ||||||
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Arktor Posted:
I’m not sure how your math is relevant to BG’s point or how it supports your conclusion that troll offense is too powerful compared to the other main clbumes. Spell it out for me. I’m dumb. Marcos El Malo edited this message on 04/22/2008 7:18PM |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 7:16PM | View Marcos El Malo's Profile | # | ||||||
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Marcos El Malo Posted:
Well, since trolls take longer to kill forums, having higher offense results in it taking much less time to pwn forums than you’d get from the same amount of offense on a non-troll. |
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Posted On: 04/22/2008 7:20PM | View Arktor's Profile | # | ||||||