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Goatse.cx [CLOSED] legality of posting pornography and shock in rp

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

this has probably been asked before but it’s a known fact that there are users that post/lurk that are under the age of 18, so i’m curious as to the legality of letting users post porn, nude photography and shock without an “i am 18 years of older and am able to see to illicit images” warning and agreement.

for all i know it’s in your ToC or there’s some legal loophole but i am curious, so any answer is appreciated

also i understand having a warning would be moot because i have been seeing those things since i was 12 and it never stopped me from clicking on them, but meh

Aurum

Avatar: Code (Green)
7

[Lee Harvey Oswalds-
Orphan Powered De-
ath Machine
]

Level 61 Hacker

INCIT is like my birthday party but with more people

It pretty much boils down to the point that it isn’t a PG13 board(OR IS IT?!??!) and as such, they are taking our word and we are responsible for any possible permanent brain scarring.

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

Aurum Posted:

It pretty much boils down to the point that it isn’t a PG13 board(OR IS IT?!??!) and as such, they are taking our word and we are responsible for any possible permanent brain scarring.

notice how this said legality, not morality. i don’t care that it’s posted and that kids see it, i’m wondering what national and international laws have to say about it. most sites have a warning page as i mentioned or a bold header stating “we are not responsible for the content posted here; by viewing or posting, you verify you are 18 years of age or above”.

if you don’t have any immediate warning of questionable or adult material, to my knowledge, it’s illegal to present it then, even though a site can’t really be held accountable for what a user posts

tl;dr someone who’s username i actually know/a mod answer this tia

Count_Smurf

Avatar: 238805 2010-08-19 21:36:46 -0400
3

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

megazeroexe Posted:

notice how this said legality, not morality. i don’t care that it’s posted and that kids see it, i’m wondering what national and international laws have to say about it. most sites have a warning page as i mentioned or a bold header stating “we are not responsible for the content posted here; by viewing or posting, you verify you are 18 years of age or above”.

if you don’t have any immediate warning of questionable or adult material, to my knowledge, it’s illegal to present it then, even though a site can’t really be held accountable for what a user posts

tl;dr someone who’s username i actually know/a mod answer this tia

This site has one of those, too. Remember typing ‘I am not easily offended’? That was where the warning was. I’m sure this has been dealt with before, I just can’t remember when and can’t be bothered to look for it.

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

i honestly do not remember typing that haha

but also, that’s still morality; saying ‘i am not easily offended’ isn’t the same thing as saying ‘i am 18 and can legally view pornography’. pictures that have swastikas and dead jews on it is offensive (to most i bumume) but it’s not illegal for a child to see.

so still no answer on the legality Log in to see images!

Aurum

Avatar: Code (Green)
7

[Lee Harvey Oswalds-
Orphan Powered De-
ath Machine
]

Level 61 Hacker

INCIT is like my birthday party but with more people

I guess it’s as legal as the sites from where the porno/shock is taken, considering those are open to children as well.

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

they also give the government and the law a big **** you by saying “you must be 18 years or older to view this page” somewhere in the fine print at the bottom, or just blatant to make it even more interesting

again someone who actually understands law and what i’m asking answer please

SanDyk

Avatar: 175636 2012-01-01 09:50:12 -0500
21

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 69 Troll

I am the internet equivelent of Jon Stewart! Except less funny...

there was something that explained that in the blog.. but that’s broken so idk

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

the internet is for porn “sorry kate” the internet is for porn “i masturbate!”

so grab your male reproductive organ and double click for porn porn porn

Sergeant Cid

MODERATOR
Avatar: 167814 2011-07-31 00:46:27 -0400

[The Airship]

Level 35 Re-Re

Scientifically Proven Terrible fabulous person..... Evidence shows mbumive build up of semen deposit in bum.

It’s not a legal requirement to have the disclaimer or warning. Many websites do so, in order to have an added layer of protection against any complaints, but even such a warning page has not been ruled to be an iron-clad defense against complaints.

Secondly, in regards to posting such material, that’s a separate event from someone viewing the material. The warning page to which you refer is actually more of a declaration page by the viewer/websurfer, in that they are stating that they are above a certain age and that such content does not violate their local community standards. So long as the person uploading the content met those requirements, they’ve done nothing wrong, since they cannot control the actions of the viewer. Also, simply providing a ‘storage place’ for such content is not illegal, so long as the owner of the storage place meets the above standards as well. If both the owner & uploader are within those legal standards, the only possible violator is the under-age viewer.

Sergeant Cid edited this message on 08/20/2010 6:29PM

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2011-10-31 21:36:25 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve Changed Adapt's Custom Title

So what do you do when you know the viewer is underage?

Adapt edited this message on 08/20/2010 6:35PM

Sergeant Cid

MODERATOR
Avatar: 167814 2011-07-31 00:46:27 -0400

[The Airship]

Level 35 Re-Re

Scientifically Proven Terrible fabulous person..... Evidence shows mbumive build up of semen deposit in bum.

Adapt Posted:

So what do you do when you know the viewer is underage?

What would you suggest?

Caesius

Avatar: 172235 Sun Apr 26 20:30:21 -0400 2009
10

Level 69 Hacker

“Trojan Horse Magnum”

I would imagine that telling the childish adults apart from the children who pretend to be adults would be a full time job.

plk

Avatar: 9972 2010-01-24 16:28:42 -0500
65

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

Hey guys, I’m pretty sure ET already addressed this the last time somebody had a fake-o “think of the children”/”rile people up and try to scare the admins into making rules” series of careposts. I believe it’s on the blog that it’s fine for users accessing forumwarz to be under 18. I’d link it, but the blog’s down. In the meantime, if you’re under 18 and you’re personally uncomfortable with viewing adult content on forumwarz, you can probably find a mod to ban you. Log in to see images!

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

this thread just turned into a big herp fest

i’m not even trying to make new rules because there’s no members around to follow them, i am just curious on the laws that apply to this. if you don’t say “warning this contains pornography” and a child goes onto the site without the intention or even the awareness that they may see pornography, i don’t see how it’s legal. case in point, alvin greene’s current felony case:

Posted:

Authorities said he approached a student in a University of South Carolina computer lab, showed her obscene photos online, then talked about going to her dorm room.

A Richland County grand jury indicted Greene, 32, for disseminating, procuring or promoting obscenity – a felony – as well as a misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent.

misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent

misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent

misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent

i don’t understand how this applies any differently on forumwarz, especially when it’s a minor, making it a felony in the united states

i don’t ever remember specifically agreeing and consenting to viewing pornography or nudity in any RP board either, or having the site/the RP section of the site declared 18+, or being provided with a copy of the site’s ToC that says ‘by signing up you consent that you are 18 and can legally view pornography”

megazeroexe edited this message on 08/20/2010 8:07PM

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2011-10-31 21:36:25 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve Changed Adapt's Custom Title

Sergeant Cid Posted:

What would you suggest?

Ban everyone.

megazeroexe

Avatar: 96079 2010-02-05 18:20:27 -0500

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 44 Hacker

hi this is pcp saying i miss m0x

another thing: who cares if the kids are uncomfortable with seeing it, this is a civil discussion about the laws that apply to the site and the game, i made that clear in my first two posts in this thread. i get that no 16 year old kid has a problem with seeing a naked women or said woman getting crammed for lack of a better word, but that doesn’t make it legal to make it available to them without affirming they are 18 (and yes, it’s illegal to click “i am 18” when you aren’t but that doesn’t stop 99% of middle school boys and up)

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2011-10-31 21:36:25 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve Changed Adapt's Custom Title

Everybody.

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2011-10-31 21:36:25 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve Changed Adapt's Custom Title

ALL THE BODIES.

plk

Avatar: 9972 2010-01-24 16:28:42 -0500
65

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

If you’re that concerned (and I don’t believe you are), maybe you should consult a lawyer rather than pretend to ask the posters here or pretend that you really care about getting some official response. The site is up and it’s obviously okay for people under 18 to be here. That gives you all the info you really need to know.

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