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TheAlbatross Posted:
Because they’re unwilling to DIE for that freedom. The price of freedom has always been death.
CAPTAIN SODA Posted:
Call them what you want, aside from the liberal nation of the UAE the entire middle east is nothing but a death culture in the end. Same is true of any other Islamic-majority country, at least until the people start to stand out against the Islamic extremism. |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 7:31AM |
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GRX Dragon Posted:
Hm, have you ever read anything by Robert Heinlein? Because this statement seems quite familiar.
And if you haven’t then I definitely recommend doing so. He’s great at incorporating political thesis into SF stories in a seamless way, and also a great SF writer in general. Easily beats the Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 9:21AM |
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GRX Dragon, you do know this is a non-roleplaying forum, right? |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 10:22AM |
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GRX Dragon Posted:
Actually, sometimes the price of freedom is listening to really annoying opinions. |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 11:03AM |
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GRX is Ann Coulter. |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 11:16AM |
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nanafabulous personjesus Posted:
Hardly.
Ann Coulter supports this war-even if only slightly. I however do not support the current war going on in Iraq. Too many of my brothers and sisters have died fighting for a group of people that deserve nothing but death. Same thing true about Europe, really.
Logic just is a cold-bum killer. |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 11:59AM |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 12:11PM |
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Because they’re unwilling to DIE for that freedom. The price of freedom has always been death.
Yup, that’s why Mahatma Ghandi had to starve himself to death to liberate India from British control.
Oh, wait.
Okay, that’s why Bob Marley was fatally shot before playing a concert organized to ease tension between two warring political factions in Jamaica.
Oh, wait.
Okay…that’s why the American military opened fire on hundreds of thousands of protesters during the Civil Rights Movement.
Oh wait.
...****, I’ve got nothing. Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 2:44PM |
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You dont die for freedom. You fight for it. |
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| Posted On: 04/04/2008 8:27PM |
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TheAlbatross Posted:
You do fight for freedom, but death is also the end of that fight just as easily as freedom is.
“It is wrong to think that belief in freedom always leads to victory; we must always be prepared for it to lead to defeat. If we choose freedom, then we must be prepared to perish along with it.” – Karl Popper
“Democracy and freedom do not guarantee the millennium. No, we do not choose political freedom because it promises us this or that. We choose it because it makes possible the only dignified form of human coexistence, the only form in which we can be fully responsible for ourselves. Whether we realize its possibilities depends on all kinds of things — and above all on ourselves.” – Karl Popper
“It is better to die with a sword in your hands, than a chain over your wings.” – Richard Rahl |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 12:19PM |
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I see what youre saying now. I was just thinkin that if everyone died for their freedom, then no one would be free. They would be…dead. TheAlbatross edited this message on 04/05/2008 2:46PM |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 2:45PM |
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Could one of you explain how this connects to the presidential elections? it just feels like you’re trading broad characterizations of the concept of freedom. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 4:23PM |
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Its not hard to get off topic with politics. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 4:25PM |
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*Puts on Plato hat* Maybe it would be productive if we had a definition of freedom we could agree on. Any suggestions? |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 4:44PM |
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Yes definition of freedom might clear some things up. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 5:28PM |
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We don’t need Plato! All we need is William Wallace!
They may take away our lives, THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEEDOOOOOMMMM! |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 5:35PM |
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Just caught this story on the news:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zwif0VMW3c4
Absolutely disgusting liberal kkk racists.
More info:
http://www.laadvocate.com/ |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 9:53PM |
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This seems a bit, um, one-sided. To say the least. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 9:58PM |
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Why? Because a bunch of college kids hired an actor to call planned parenthood clinics wanting to make donations to kill black babies because there are too many black people in the world? And they got resposes like “I understand completely” “we will gladly take your money”
What’s one-sided? They are just revealing a racist organization for what it is. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 10:13PM |
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For starters, all of your sources stem from this group:
http://www.studentgroups.ucla.edu/sgweb/details_frame.asp?OrgID=799
When all your sources have the same stated ulterior motive for attacking a group like planned parenthood, you should reexamine your views. |
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| Posted On: 04/05/2008 10:51PM |
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