i think the problem here is that people have different ideas of entertainment

anyway it was a freakin awesome film and anyone near an imax should definitely see it

you can make a great movie with great effects. see every pixar movie.

Fortunato Posted:

you can make a great movie with great effects. see every pixar movie.

I wouldn’t say every Pixar film, but they def seem to be the big dog of quality films lately. I think it has more to do with their ability to attract quality storytellers like Brad Bird, Pete Docter, and John Lbumeter, than it has to do with the animation. Granted, the animation is still wonderful.

Bill_Murray_Fan_7383 Posted:

Well, first of all, I refuse to jump on the “LOL STORYTELLING” bandwagon.

Yeah, there’s no twists or turns; nothing shockingly new. But a story doesn’t have to be innovative to be good – Avatar has a solid love story and a good resistance story.

Second of all, **** you, and **** anyone who writes off special effects as “pretty pictures”. The crew of Avatar went to painstaking lengths to make the film’s world as beautiful and believable as it could possibly be, and the result is one of the most stunning film universes ever made. The use of color in Avatar rivals masters like Jean-Pierre Jeunet, and the cinematography is brilliant.

In short, the “pretty pictures” of Avatar were worth well beyond $10 for me, and I’ll probably put out another $10-$20 before it cycles out.

Where did I say that Avatar didn’t have a good story? I was replying specifically to the idea of going to see a movie simply for the special effects. Special effects should compliment the story, not overshadow it or be a substitution. Does Avatar have more to offer than just special effects? I’m not sure, since every trailer I’ve seen so far seems to focus solely on the effects, not the story. That’s been what they’ve been pushing. If it gets a decent review for having a good story, I’ll probably see it. Even if it’s not ‘new & innovative’, that’s fine. The point is that special effects alone do not make a good movie. You still need a good story to go along with it, even if it is ‘tried and true’.

As far as actually seeing the movie in the theaters, I still probably won’t, but that’s a separate issue. I simply prefer to rent a movie to watch in the comfort of my own home theater. If I like it enough, I’ll end up buying a copy for my collection.

Regarding Pixar, they are an excellent example of quality work on both sides of the issue. And their stories are definitely ‘tried & true’.

Acid Flux edited this message on 12/20/2009 12:49PM

Fortunato Posted:

they love to show off their technical chops. Fully rendered hair and stuff, like in the Incredibles when the family falls into the ocean.

the incredibles is one of hte best movies ever made

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

the incredibles is one of hte best movies ever made

Pretty much all of pixars movies are the best movies ever made, even though I still haven’t seen Up Log in to see images!

Chawin Posted:

i think the problem here is that people have different ideas of entertainment

the problem is people are untolerable to different ideas of entertainment

I don´t understand this whine about the plot. Different movies are good for different reasons, and CGI and the technology is one these reasons. Sure exeptional story is the most prestigious way of making a good movie, but still. One just has to know what is coming, and in a movie like Avatar, at least for me, a cliche plot is almost a good thing, since cliches are such for a good reason, because they work. Thus the plot gives a solid, not groundbraking but solid level for the actual point, the 3D. Going too artsy with the plot might have ruined it otherwise(And at least there is a plot, if you compare it to, say, Transformers 2).

And even this said, Camerons prior movies are most great, but not because of excellent story, but the quality of the storyTELLING, and the action/suspense. They are entartaining because they are so damn well made. So I think that Avatar only follows the line Cameron has taken before. Just know what your in for.

And yes, Pixar movies are all pretty much brilliant.

I’ll phone in a review…

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Saw it in the theater, enjoyed it.

Keeping in mind that ZOMG different people like different things – yes, the visual effects were stunning. The story was obviously a rehash, slightly tired and obviously done before. Think ‘Fern Gully’ meets ‘Dances with Wolves’.

Still, I personally clbumified Avatar as a ‘fun’ movie. Don’t go in expecting ‘epic’ and you should find it entertaining.

Fortunato Posted:

moon

amazing film, bought it on dvd last week

ahhh its just so woah