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Noobs Apply the Level 4 Newb Restriction to Buildr

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

This his been one of the few useful limitations that prevent any serious gaming of Flamebate by people without hours of free time. Why not apply it sitewide to all community-based aspects of the game such as buildr? Just a thought.

Vageena Davis

Avatar: 151797 2010-01-24 16:34:00 -0500
29

[pizza party]

Level 69 Camwhore

I am easily offended. I also suck fine upstanding member of society male reproductive organs.

I don’t think this is a bad idea at all. It only takes a few days to get to level 4 and iirc the level restrictions don’t apply to characters on accounts that have at least one character level 4 or higher.

Fie

Avatar: 152207 2011-11-01 00:46:41 -0400
10

[And The Banned Pla-
yed On
]

Level 47 Camwhore

I want to see some real, live poop.

Good idea.

ChilePepino

Avatar: 101005 2010-01-24 16:17:40 -0500
5

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 35 Permanoob

Well, spf357 really rocks.

few days? I can do it on one day, have done it on several alts. And anyone who makes illegal alts to annoy the user-base already knows how to do it, so the level 4 restriction thing doesn’t really work at all.

Ricket

MODERATOR
Avatar: 4300 2011-11-01 00:56:47 -0400
100

[The Scrotal Safety-
Commission
]

Level 69 Troll

Good poster, upvoted.

Fie Posted:

Good idea.

DALEK AMBbum-
ADOR

Avatar: Hacker Man w/ Goggles
35

Level 52 Hacker

“Perl Diva”

Capital Idea!

Shii

Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
27

[Phantasmagoric Spl-
endor
]

Level 35 Emo Kid

I haven't seen a bad idea that I didn't like.

ChilePepino Posted:

few days? I can do it on one day, have done it on several alts. And anyone who makes illegal alts to annoy the user-base already knows how to do it, so the level 4 restriction thing doesn’t really work at all.

Instead of just bluntly disagreeing, is there any DOWNSIDE to making it level 4 restricted?

I personally don’t see any reason not too, and even if I prevents one abuse of the system it’s an improvement. Good idea.

ChilePepino

Avatar: 101005 2010-01-24 16:17:40 -0500
5

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 35 Permanoob

Well, spf357 really rocks.

Is there any downside? well aside from making trout code more stuff (I don’t know how much or how little it would be) I don’t see any downside, but what’s the point to it?

mterek

Avatar: 192622 2009-09-24 16:39:01 -0400
18

[mahjong]

Level 69 Re-Re

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

I agree with ChilePepino, it won’t change much if people are dedicated enough.

Clint Eastwo-
od

Avatar: 124206 Thu Jan 22 11:14:02 -0500 2009
11

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

mterek Posted:

I agree with ChilePepino, it won’t change much if people are dedicated enough.

A lot of people aren’t that dedicated though.

iRawr aside, who gets around that level 4 restriction? And have you played long enough to remember what it was like before that restriction was in place?

You have absolutely nothing to compare it too, except your own bumumptions.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2011-12-11 17:25:30 -0500
8

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 61 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into anime. ALSO male reproductive organS!

Clint Eastwood Posted:

A lot of people aren’t that dedicated though.

iRawr aside, who gets around that level 4 restriction? And have you played long enough to remember what it was like before that restriction was in place?

You have absolutely nothing to compare it too, except your own bumumptions.

It’s a unneeded change that ET will have to take time out of more important stuff. Seriously, people will just make illegal alts in bulk, wait a day or two then level them up to 4 and do it, it will only be a minor annoyance to them.

kraigu

Avatar: 132907 2010-01-24 16:36:53 -0500
18

Level 69 Hacker

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

ChilePepino Posted:

few days? I can do it on one day, have done it on several alts. And anyone who makes illegal alts to annoy the user-base already knows how to do it, so the level 4 restriction thing doesn’t really work at all.

It just raises the bar a bit, but that’s fine.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

CrinkzPipe Posted:

will just make illegal alts in bulk, wait a day or two

That would give us time to preemptively catch them.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2011-12-11 17:25:30 -0500
8

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 61 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into anime. ALSO male reproductive organS!

MC Banhammer Posted:

That would give us time to preemptively catch them.

Perhaps, but I don’t see this solving many problems for the time it might take to code. But sure, if it doesn’t take more than a day or two of coding, I’d be for it.

mterek

Avatar: 192622 2009-09-24 16:39:01 -0400
18

[mahjong]

Level 69 Re-Re

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

MC Banhammer Posted:

That would give us time to preemptively catch them.

When Forumwarz has 30,000 members, how are you to differentiate between ten or twelve illegal alts or legal characters leveling up at once at the same time? What happens if a genuine member gets caught in the cross-fire of vote fraud and gets banned mistakenly?

Until those characters start voting (i.e. it’s too late), there’s no way to tell they’re illegal alts unless the user is dumb enough to log in with the same IP using them.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

mterek Posted:

unless the user is dumb enough to log in with the same IP

You’d be surprised how many dumb users there are.

**** Corp

Avatar: Tight Skirt
11

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

MC Banhammer Posted:

You’d be surprised how many dumb users there are.

Cue example…

Kittysan

Avatar: Jimmy the Re-Re
82

Level 40 Re-Re

I'm a fabulous person who goes back on Dom ties

That sounds like elitism. And I don’t like elitism. Log in to see images!

Still, level 4 isn’t that hard to reach. And if you are dedicated to this game, you’ll surely reach it. I myself was interested in Buildrs and INCIT after I had finished with Episode 1, because I had nothing else left to do. That was level 10.

And I don’t know how bad Flamebate had been before the restriction was in place, either. In fact, I didn’t know such restriction exist until I read this thread. Log in to see images!

So… If it would somewhat hinder ghax style illegal alts abuse, and wouldn’t hurt a dedicated new player. Then I won’t have a problem with it. Just explain to those newbies they have to hang out a while longer and I’m sure they’ll be fine.

Oh, and let’s hope the coding wouldn’t A. be too time-consuming (Flamebate restriction code can be copied, no?) B. create side effects like other recent changes. Log in to see images!

Shii

Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
27

[Phantasmagoric Spl-
endor
]

Level 35 Emo Kid

I haven't seen a bad idea that I didn't like.

and for anyone who claims it wouldn’t slow anyone down….

Maybe for one alt, no, but imagine trying to get 28 of them to level 4.

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

Shii Posted:

and for anyone who claims it wouldn’t slow anyone down….

Maybe for one alt, no, but imagine trying to get 28 of them to level 4.

Yeah, especially behind slow anonymous proxies.

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