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Fix It Why is Fie banned?

Jalapeno Boo-
tyhole

MODERATOR
Avatar: 44 2012-11-06 12:31:55 -0500

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 44 Emo Kid

I had the first bum avatar.

Fingerz Posted:

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Christ, you go out for dinner and what happens when you get back? ****storm.

Thanks for posting these screenshots. Remember kids, if you see some illegal activity going down:

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Note: Because of Fingerz’s advice, I’ve refrained from starting up my “Forumwarz’s Biggest Snitch” contest for BP and Peen. For now.

Fingerz

Avatar: 22863 2010-11-15 01:15:51 -0500
16

[7 VIBRATING DOLDOES]

Level 35 Emo Kid

A neverhasbeen

Jalapeno Bootyhole Posted:

Note: Because of Fingerz’s advice, I’ve refrained from starting up my “Forumwarz’s Biggest Snitch” contest for BP and Peen. For now.

Good call, imo.

ChilePepino

Avatar: 101005 2010-01-24 16:17:40 -0500
5

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 35 Permanoob

Well, spf357 really rocks.

hey good idea, put a peen on snitching instead of putting it on phineas contest.

Dunatis

Avatar: 78885 2011-11-01 01:20:41 -0400
100

[Cabal Gamez]

Level 69 Hacker

Richard Whittington

ChilePepino Posted:

hey good idea, put a peen on snitching instead of putting it on phineas contest.

I’d totally whore that peen up Log in to see images!

cya

Avatar: 146808 2012-12-30 22:05:41 -0500
12

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 69 Hacker

Scared of death

i like the no mr bond i expect you to even though i dont like WWWWWW

Jalapeno Boo-
tyhole

MODERATOR
Avatar: 44 2012-11-06 12:31:55 -0500

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 44 Emo Kid

I had the first bum avatar.

Chawin Posted:

i like the no mr bond i expect you to even though i dont like WWWWWW

I admit it was kinda funny, but the same player made a bunch of other Log in to see images!

cya

Avatar: 146808 2012-12-30 22:05:41 -0500
12

[Deth Krew 2010]

Level 69 Hacker

Scared of death

i am deeply upset and hurt from this news ):

fuzzyeric

Avatar: Code (Green)
4

[Forumwarz Universi-
ty
]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

Jalapeno Bootyhole Posted:

Or, the non-sarcastic answer: We still haven’t determined a way to address dumpvoting. As far as I can tell, there’s no simple and effective method to force people to vote a certain way. But we are thinking about it.

Scale votes by the history of prior winning votes. I.e., people who routinely vote for winners have bigger votes than people who routinely vote for losers. This is vaguely similar to the Google PageRank algorithm — pages that largely link to relevant pages are strong indicators of relevance. A result in voting is then the sum of the weights of the names who voted for a submission.

A user who dumpvotes is then reducing their ability to reinforce spamming behaviour. It’s less draconian than banning a dumpvoter, but asymptotically reduces their ability to distort the outcome to whatever “good decision rate” they establish. It establishes a new equilibrium point in the game/meta-game combination where voting for winners is an improved long-term strategy than the current game/meta-game combo.

Recommendations in an implementation:

  • Winners are not penalized for having to vote for someone else.
  • No one’s vote weight can ever go to zero. So, a less draconian way to do this would be to weight by log(winner votes – loser votes) similar to the current tracking in Forumbuildr or Itembuildr, but scaled by a log() to avoid absurd dominated voting schemes.
  • Newbies start with the median vote weight.
  • Vote weight can be increased for BP.

Open questions:

  • Do all alts of a user get a lumped weight, or are alts imagined to be distinct individuals with distinct voting habits?
  • Is log() the right scaling function? Log base 2? 10? Is sqrt() better? (This may require modeling based on real data. A 50% winner voter over a set of n contests is expected to have a zero win-loss with a standard deviation of sqrt(n). So half of all 50% win voters have a negative or zero score and half have a positive or zero score. Depending on the desired dynamics wins and losses perhaps will “count differently”, e.g. the score is based on 3*winer votes – loser votes or similar. Perhaps even winner/loser. Some modeling is prescribed here.)

Or does someone have a better idea?

Master_Troll

Avatar: 58489 2010-05-26 01:29:58 -0400
17

Level 69 Emo Kid

Lee_Harvey_Oswald is Pinky and I'm Brain

http://www.forumwarz.com/incit/view/123936

I AM COMPLETELY REFORMED AND TRUSTWORTHY

I am totally working for you know Log in to see images!

Fingerz

Avatar: 22863 2010-11-15 01:15:51 -0500
16

[7 VIBRATING DOLDOES]

Level 35 Emo Kid

A neverhasbeen

Master_Troll Posted:

http://www.forumwarz.com/incit/view/123936

I AM COMPLETELY REFORMED AND TRUSTWORTHY

I am totally working for you know Log in to see images!

NICE CATCH!! Howcome that angry Dwarfz dude isn’t banned tho? Log in to see images!

Jalapeno Boo-
tyhole

MODERATOR
Avatar: 44 2012-11-06 12:31:55 -0500

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 44 Emo Kid

I had the first bum avatar.

Fingerz Posted:

NICE CATCH!! Howcome that angry Dwarfz dude isn’t banned tho? Log in to see images!

He is now. Thanks for pointing it out, everyone.

As much as I relish my duties policing the INCIT beat, I’m not always going to be around to serve up justice immediately.

Fingerz

Avatar: 22863 2010-11-15 01:15:51 -0500
16

[7 VIBRATING DOLDOES]

Level 35 Emo Kid

A neverhasbeen

Jalapeno Bootyhole Posted:

He is now. Thanks for pointing it out, everyone.

As much as I relish my duties policing the INCIT beat, I’m not always going to be around to serve up justice immediately.

This thread should be stickied and reserved for snitching from now on Log in to see images!

Would be fun to read and participate in, imo.

man-man

Avatar: 156485 2010-01-24 16:36:14 -0500
24

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Hacker

Selfish fine upstanding member of society

fuzzyeric Posted:

Scale votes by the history of prior winning votes… [snip]

The problem I’m immediately seeing here is that this would punish anyone with a sense of humour that differs from the other people in the room – they see the choices, genuinely pick the one they find funniest, and lose voting power because no-one else agrees with them.

Whenever I play INCIT it seems like the ones I find least funny are getting the most votes. Maybe there’s dumpvoting at work here, but I suspect people just find things funny that I think are ****. Increasing your vote’s weight by how often you agree with others is just an incentive to vote along predictable lines – try to guess what everyone else will vote for and jump on the wagon, instead of voting for what you actually find funny.

That said, I don’t have a better suggestion. There’s really no way to force people to vote honestly for what they find funniest – so long as there’s rewards attached there will be ways to game the system (including the system you described – for example, get a small group together and all vote the same way to make that sub win, having voted for the winner the weight of the group’s votes increases and it only becomes easier to control the outcome, and hence increase your voting weight further)

Fie

Avatar: 152207 2011-11-01 00:46:41 -0400
10

[And The Banned Pla-
yed On
]

Level 47 Camwhore

I want to see some real, live poop.

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merc was spamming incite

fuzzyeric

Avatar: Code (Green)
4

[Forumwarz Universi-
ty
]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

Quis molestat ipsos molestiae

Hmm… Who annoys the annoyers themselves? Ah.

Who trolls the trolls?

<snerk>

NeoVid

Avatar: 174653 Fri May 22 01:54:45 -0400 2009
13

[WeChall]

Level 63 Troll

“Flame Retarded”

Chawin Posted:

i like the no mr bond i expect you to even though i dont like WWWWWW

I would say that sort of thing is an inside joke, and not spamming.

DarkDespair5

Avatar: 77864 Thu Jun 04 08:28:46 -0400 2009

Level 56 Hacker

“Logic Bomber”

You troll the trolls by +m’ing them.

The IRC version of “ban”, because it technically lets them read FB/etc.

DarkDespair5 edited this message on 10/04/2009 2:21PM

Sarcasm Inc

Avatar: 124937 2010-01-24 16:34:47 -0500
22

[pizza party]

Level 69 Hacker

Not needed anymore now that we have the SarcMark

Honest question here, why is Fie banned (again)?

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