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FAQ Gaining Fans

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

MC Banhammer Posted:

Charisma and Luck max out. Maybe you hit those maxes on the test server?

Not unless Luck maxes out at 7 and charisma maxes out at 18. I also know for certain that the delivery cap is much higher than ~60k.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Also I don’t see how this is on topic.

It’s a tangent, but I didn’t think it was worth creating a new thread over.

Inconnu

Avatar: 48966 2011-07-31 19:36:53 -0400
100

[The Scrotal Safety-
Commission
]

Level 69 Camwhore

Qui est cette chienne

Back to thread topic.

Current fans gain formula roughly is (damage_dealt – damage_received)/turns_taken. The idea behind this formula is simple: fans = DPT ratio (damage per turn). In real life things work much harder (yes, we really should’ve tested more lvl 35 alts on test server).

Let’s say you’re lvl 35 troll with [almost] best gear, your best attacks do 4500 and 3000 damage and you obviously take no damage from forums. Your estimated DPT should be average between your attack, right? (4500 + 3000)/2 = 3750. If the forum has 8 threads, you deal 4*4500 + 4*3000 = 30000 damage and gain 3750 fans. Ok, that’s your DPT. What if forum has 7 threads? You deal 27000 damage and gain 3857 fans. That’s not your DPT. Hey, you cheated 107 fans, bastard! Why? Because even and odd number of threads make big difference.

Furthermore, the cooldowns make difference too. Let’s say you’re lvl 35 permanoob, forum has vuln to recipes and your basic attacks. Recipes[1] deal 3500 damage, your attacks average 1500[2] and 1100[3]. If the forum has 8 threads you do 1-2-3-2-3-2-3-2 -> 3500 + 6000 + 3300 = 12800 = 1600 fans. Now if the forum has 9 threads you do 1-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-1 -> 7000 + 6000 + 3300 = 12800 = 1811 fans. Wow, even more difference here!

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Inconnu Posted:

Back to thread topic.

Current fans gain formula roughly is (damage_dealt – damage_received)/turns_taken. The idea behind this formula is simple: fans = DPT ratio (damage per turn). In real life things work much harder (yes, we really should’ve tested more lvl 35 alts on test server).

Let’s say you’re lvl 35 troll with [almost] best gear, your best attacks do 4500 and 3000 damage and you obviously take no damage from forums. Your estimated DPT should be average between your attack, right? (4500 + 3000)/2 = 3750. If the forum has 8 threads, you deal 4*4500 + 4*3000 = 30000 damage and gain 3750 fans. Ok, that’s your DPT. What if forum has 7 threads? You deal 27000 damage and gain 3857 fans. That’s not your DPT. Hey, you cheated 107 fans, bastard! Why? Because even and odd number of threads make big difference.

Furthermore, the cooldowns make difference too. Let’s say you’re lvl 35 permanoob, forum has vuln to recipes and your basic attacks. Recipes[1] deal 3500 damage, your attacks average 1500[2] and 1100[3]. If the forum has 8 threads you do 1-2-3-2-3-2-3-2 -> 3500 + 6000 + 3300 = 12800 = 1600 fans. Now if the forum has 9 threads you do 1-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-1 -> 7000 + 6000 + 3300 = 12800 = 1811 fans. Wow, even more difference here!

OMG!!!!

You mean, the changes now require us to think if we want to maximize our output, instead of just spamming 121212?

Sounds like that’s exactly what was intended Log in to see images!

Afterthotz

Avatar: 187543 2010-01-24 16:13:10 -0500
28

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Hacker

I lurk much better than I post - and my lurking skills really suck.

quangntenemy Posted:

I don’t know. I think I might sacrifice my streak and 12 visits saved from last round to grind that forum and try to get the peen when it’s easily obtainable. I even planned to explore forums with my army of alts to find out which forums give the most fans but I guess there’s no need to do that anymore.

Tell me more. I glanced through the E-peen list but didn’t notice anything new. I have now opened up ANOTHER space on my ’ Forever out of your reach but ye ken dream’ peen shelf. My label gun is ready.

“A lie can run around the world before the truth has got it’s boots on.”

Sarcasm Inc

Avatar: 124937 2010-01-24 16:34:47 -0500
22

[pizza party]

Level 69 Hacker

Not needed anymore now that we have the SarcMark

Afterthotz Posted:

I have now opened up ANOTHER space on my ’ Forever out of your reach but ye ken dream’ peen shelf.

Inconnu

Avatar: 48966 2011-07-31 19:36:53 -0400
100

[The Scrotal Safety-
Commission
]

Level 69 Camwhore

Qui est cette chienne

MC Banhammer Posted:

You mean, the changes now require us to think if we want to maximize our output, instead of just spamming 121212?

Sounds like that’s exactly what was intended Log in to see images!

Well, it doesn’t bring us to thinking – just to plain randomness of forum thread numbers.

chuxDLX

Avatar: Code (Green)

Level 12 Hacker

“Ohacku”

Zhou Yu Posted:

The formula is:

Fans gained = floor((damage dealt – damage taken)/number of turns)

I’m new to FWz. What is ‘floor’?

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

chuxDLX Posted:

I’m new to FWz. What is ‘floor’?

You’re clearly not a hacker IRL.

“Floor” isn’t a FW term, it’s a programming term. Floor is the next lowest integer. Basically it means you round down.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

Bumping this thread so that ET implements the peen now and everyone can stop taking screenshots Log in to see images!

Dunatis

Avatar: 78885 2011-11-01 01:20:41 -0400
100

[Cabal Gamez]

Level 69 Hacker

Richard Whittington

Inconnu Posted:

Well, it doesn’t bring us to thinking – just to plain randomness of forum thread numbers.

Not to mention the Fans lost equation which has it stop losing Fans after a certain streak. Why you’d have to plan out the exact order of your Forums after a grindfest to get optimal Fan gain on top of getting lucky with perfect Thread counts and no status effects when it takes more than one hit, and random damages dealing max amounts… Planning is actually rather important to hit the top even with the minor other fluctuations.

The Leaderboard is actually more attainable than others and since streaks eventually reset, it’s impossible to flagpole sit. There will be a lot of turnover on the boards even if Trolls get the top overall all the time.

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

quangntenemy Posted:

Bumping this thread so that ET implements the peen now and everyone can stop taking screenshots Log in to see images!

I agree Log in to see images!

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Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

Inertia Posted:

I agree Log in to see images!

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