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Log in to see images! 116 unread replies, this thread sure derailed. Something I’d like to add: Most of us discussing ITT live or at least come from the western hemisphere and therefore were influenced by Christian beliefs. I just refuse to believe in something that some old men wrote down over 2000 years while tripping on mushrooms or whatever. Other cultures, especially Asian religions, keep telling me a different story, as do people from South America or tribes in Afrika. Every early culture tried to explain how the world came into existence, which is fine, but this also makes all those theories exchangeable. I respect faith in a god / gods / religious theory, but isn’t it a bit presumptuous to say one’s religion explains the creation of the universe and as long as you can’t prove me wrong? |
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Posted On: 09/04/2009 11:45PM | View Aldo_Anything's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
I’ve only caught up this far in the thread, but I would like to earnestly emptyquote an amazing post. People’s dismissal of my “go watch pale blue dot” argument as a strawman were perfectly correct in logical terms, but the sooner you realize that the biggest and most important questions facing mankind operate outside of logical confines, the better off you’ll be. Indiana Jonas edited this message on 09/05/2009 4:42AM |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 4:13AM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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A faith in the logic of your own brain is no less flawed than a faith in a higher power. Both are constructs of the human mind, and believing wholly in either without the acknowledgment of doubt or potential truth in the opposing viewpoint is the single most close-minded and narcissistic belief to have. Anyone not caught up in their own smug superiority, any with the slightest inkling of how complex and unknown our existence it, anyone with a true appreciation for just how improbable and miraculous our existence is will not waste his time trying to prove or disprove the existence of a higher being.
Those that seek out people of faith and try to bind them in logical constructs are nothing but braggarts and trolls, and the faux-intelligent front they put up is nothing more than a calculated and trite means to “win” internet arugements about the single-most prevalent question to plague mankind since the dawn of contemplative thought. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 4:58AM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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What is going on in this thread this is the first time i have to tldr my own thread.
Anyway my thought about God is that he’s an artist or dreamer or something like that and so able to create something out of nothing. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 6:14AM | View Inertia's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hobart Bliggity Posted:No it isn’t. But thanks for engaging in a performative contradiction, as well as not understanding what logic actually is.
Now you need to drop your ignorantly smug superiority complex, as it doesn’t suit you. Plus: it might get you banned again. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 8:23AM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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I’m getting a dejavu here |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 8:26AM | View Inertia's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
hehe I love love love that you’re so proud of “getting” me banned last time Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 12:38PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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I didn’t get you banned; you did it to yourself by trolling and ****ing off the mods. I’m simply reminding you that you shouldn’t behave in such a manner this time because you’ll most likely end up getting banned again. I’m trying to help you. I’m nice like that, y’see. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 4:22PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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This is not a troll, I just would like to point something out.
And read the comments. Moniker edited this message on 09/05/2009 6:23PM |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 6:14PM | View Moniker's Profile | # | ||||||
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Moniker Posted:
I mean, I could be wrong here, but I hear basically the same arguments from the atheists time and time again as well. (At least, the ones I have had discussions with.)
If you’re in a stalemate as far as “neither side is willing to change position” goes, then you’re going to run into the same arguments on either side, just repeated more and more vehemently. And sure, you could counter with “well, I would utilize more varied arguments against the Christians if they provided more arguments, but they only use the same ones,” but really I could counter the same way.
It’s just cyclical. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 8:27PM | View Shii's Profile | # | ||||||
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All religious arguments go like this Christian: *States reason for gods existant* Atheist: Says theres no evidence Christian: Spouts some random **** Atheist: Spouts random **** Christian: HOW DID UNIVERSE START THEN? CAN’T MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING Atheist: THEN WHERE DID YOUR GOD COME FROM? Christian: More Random **** Atheist: More Random ****.
Rinse, Lather, Repeat. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 8:34PM | View Skyman747's Profile | # | ||||||
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Sort of. Depends how you clbumify random ****. Some may call a random piece of **** they spout a logical conclusion. It’s really all just different areas of Philosophy and Theology, the snag being that some people who partake in it have absolutely no knowledge in either field, and so really do end up spouting random ****e. Such as a Creationist on YouTube who claimed that science is wrong, reasoning being that because DNA contains acid, and that acid burns, it would melt us all if we were full of it.
****ing hell, if people can’t even grasp basic Chemistry, what makes them think they can wrap their heads around Philosophy? |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 8:54PM | View Drakodan's Profile | # | ||||||
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Drakodan Posted:
AHAHAHAHahahahahaha
I am actually laughing irl, that’s one of the best arguments I’ve ever heard.
I’m totally going to use that just to **** off an atheist. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 9:06PM | View Shii's Profile | # | ||||||
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The people in the video are taking the ****, but everything they say comes from creationist postings around the place. (Edit: relevant because the acid thing is in there, alongside some other real gems) man-man edited this message on 09/05/2009 9:33PM |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 9:30PM | View man-man's Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
I openly troll constantly in CD and most of the mods know this. Thanks for the help though m8 Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 9:35PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hobart Bliggity Posted:And look where it got you. Oh well—I tried to help.
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 9:45PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
I already said thanks what more do you want? |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 11:00PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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A McLaren-Mercedes SLR would be nice. |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 11:10PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
please don’t troll |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 11:11PM | View Indiana Jonas's Profile | # | ||||||
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That’s not trolling. You asked a question. I answered it.
Now let’s see you repeat your mistake of before and report non-trolling posts. Then you’ll get banned. Again. And I’ll laugh. Why? Because you won’t have learned from your mistake. OverclockedJesus was banned for this post by Nicco |
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Posted On: 09/05/2009 11:15PM | View OverclockedJesus...'s Profile | # | ||||||