Afterthotz Posted:

Cred gained yesterday:

Not so helpful without some idea of the cred gained… if you don’t know the exact figure, can you guess at what kind of amount it would be?

That fits right in with the idea of a cap at 40K per unique forum pwned. If you continue getting ~160K, even with more Charisma then it’d pretty much confirm that.

I’ve decided I should try and repeat the one run I have on record that doesn’t hold to that limit… i.e. rack up as much cred as I can in 4 visits, equip my best rollover equipment then see what happens.

E: Maybe also try saving visits for a few days, then using 8 or 12 visits on a smaller set of forums so that the unique count is lower, see what happens then.

I can attest to the fact that you only get deliveries for pwning any given forum once per day. I’ve been farming HoFF on my Hacker and Troll alts, and they both consistently get just under 40k in deliveries the next day. Lower unique forum count -> lower delivery total, always.

There was a delivery cap set back towards the beginning of Episode 2. Before it was in place, people were making absurd amounts of Flezz daily; now you can get about 40k maximum per forum pwned, as you’ve noticed. Adding LUK and CHA allows you to hit the delivery cap on lower-leveled forums.

I’ve no idea if there’s some slope for delivery degradation as more (unique) forums per day are pwned, but I’m inclined to believe this isn’t the case. Coming back from a long-ish break, I had 15 visits stored up on my alts, and each of them made a bit less than 600k in deliveries the following day, which seems perfectly in keeping with the 40k per forum max delivery rate.

Sorry I don’t have any hard numbers; figured my observations might be helpful even without them.

The formula you’ve come up with is useful for maximizing deliveries on weak forums. I’ve noticed a slight increase in income since I started optimizing for CHA rather than giving LUK and CHA equal weight in my rollover equipment.

Luck: 1

Charisma: 31

# of unique forums pwn’ed yesterday: 4

Cred gained yesterday: 239479

# of deliveries: 23

Total value of deliveries (Frugality 10):   158,402

And there we are. Looks like a cap to me. What next, dear number crunchers?

A new set of runs on a higher/lower forum range? Is it almost time for some sweeping generalizations and announcements the layman can understand?
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-“We’ve got a lot of experience of not having any experience”

-“But the point is… the point is... the point is we’ve not been experienced for a lot longer than you.”

Ok, new influx of data into the system… sorted it out to move the runs that are pressed against 40k/forum off to one side, then extended my analysis over all of the data. Current setup has a column for the prediction, given different values fed into the basic formula that it seems to follow, then a column that divides the actual value by the prediction (so if that’s less than one, the run was worth less than predicted, over 1 it got more deliveries than predicted), then a column for the difference between that division and 1, taking the absolute value to get a measure of how far wrong the prediction is for that data point.

On the tops of the columns I have a cell each for the median of the actual/prediction column, and the maximum and average differences from 1.

So my method at the moment is to pick a pair of weightings for Luck and Charisma, then adjust the factor that credgain is divided by until the median is on 1, then see what the max/average error is. I’d like to point out at this point that I’m not a statistician, so there’s probably a better method, but trial and error for the win. Log in to see images!

Current best: Weight Charisma at 3 times luck, divide cred-gain by 69. Biggest error came in at 0.7 times the prediction, and the average deviation is 0.06, it also has the plus point that 69 is the kind of number someone programming this thing might decide to use…

[tl;dr: Current best formula is Delivery Value = (Luck + 3*Charisma) * (credgain/69), capped at 40,000 per unique forum pwned]

Might I instead recommend doing a combination of

Denture Chat

The Furry Farm

Li’l Pony Groomers:Kids Only!

Paranoid Panorama

Something Lawful

Dolphin Love

Since they all offer the same thread counts and thus you can keep Cred gain constant.

Afterthotz Posted:

I’m unable to change back to a Luck1/Char1 base run.

Afterthotz Posted:

Luck: 1

Charisma: 11

Charisma isn’t affected at all by Haxl. If your Luck is 1, you should be able to manipulate your equipment to return to Luck 1 / Charisma 1 right now.

But of course… I could never reveal the Super Secret Alternate that I don’t really have the time to do anything with. Even if he is just one of hundreds.

Hundreds I tells you.

*cough*

Sarcasm Inc Posted:

You all have far too much time on your hands. Log in to see images!

I wish, if I had more time on my hands I’d throw in those 5 alts I’m not using into testing this **** out, and I’d be able to get all that video game playing in that I want to do plus keep the house cleaner…

Luck: 1

Charisma: 31

# of unique forums pwn’ed yesterday: 4

Cred gained yesterday: 8221

# of deliveries: 19

Total value of deliveries (Frugality 10):   11,781

Should be able to haxl late tonight or tomorrow morning, then I’ll stick to the forums suggested above by Dunatis.

I’ll start with Luck again and ease it up. Charisma, having only one role – seems to be the hammer. Luck, having two roles – deliveries AND helping you with defense(?)/dodging in forums, is definitely a more subtle touch.