I think Slipstream would be abusable as a means of getting large #s of cards with a small # of scoops. Consider:

1. Player has 4 scoops, buys a Slipstream, then uses it.

2. Player has 10 scoops, buys one card (any kind) and a Slipstream, then uses it.

3. Player has 12 scoops, buys two cards and a Slipstream, then uses it.

4. Repeat 2 and 3 as necessary.

As long as the player keeps getting offered Slipstreams, it seems like they could repeat this pattern indefinitely, obtaining 1-2 extra cards each time. And since they’re cashing in two or three times at each step, they have that many chances to get another Slipstream.

The only obvious way I can think of to avoid the infinite loop problem would be to impose a hard cap on the # of times a player can use Slipstream, say once a week or once a day. Or prevent it from being offered more than once every 4+ card draws.

Log in to see images! MySpace Tom edited this message on 05/18/2008 10:02PM

The Other Other Hole Posted:

Maybe the user could choose a desired card to discard from the target user. If they have one it’s discarded, if they don’t, do nothing. Again, these aren’t written in stone yet. If we go with this perhaps Peek-a-boo-boo needs to actually steal the target users card instead of just destroy.

if you get to name a card and they discard one if they have it – then the card being played should def. be called “Go Fish”

The Other Other Hole Posted:

Good point. Although.. is it such a bad thing to have people in last in the standings with a ton of cards? Currently the leader in my bracket has something stupid like 50+ cards. Balance of power isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But yes, valid point.

But if they can get 50 cards on day 1 using this (and some luck) on top of the other ways they can tweak the domination rounds, then collect scoops the rest of the week— it would make them nearly untouchable.

And again- if they have klan-mates in the same group with 50 cards each nobody else would stand a chance.

Go Fish is an awesome name for that! Log in to see images!

As for the klan advantage cards, the more I think about it, the more I think those cards would be a good thing. It’s not like the advantage isn’t there if a klan is willing to work it. Large klans have an advantage, but with some of the new cards, as mentioned, solo players and members from other klans could band together to take someone down if they wanted. That could be very cool! Or, maybe I’m not a great person to weigh in on this, since I’d far prefer being able to bumhole half the board than ever take home a medal.

Not a new card suggestion, but something that could be truly helpful in shifting things in an interesting way? Limiting any scoop gaining improvement type cards to only being able to play a certain number per day. Limiting destruction cards has been suggested in the past, but really shields took care of that.

As is the last 30 minute modest improvement rush is cool, but fairly predictable. A hell of a lot of the “this is completely locked down and nothing can touch it” would be eliminated by simply making any improvement cards limited. Most objections to the new cards up for debate would also be eliminated by an improvement limit. Say 10 improvements can happen in the time from one rollover to the next. A limit like that could bring out a lot more strategy in play that we are currently seeing. Just a thought.

Or maybe the male reproductive organshot card will take care of things. Not sure though. It seems like it would be more effective to batter through shields and then try to bumhole than to prevent one of potentially 30 modest improvements.

(WetSocket, go back one page to see all the card suggestions TOOH posted as being real possibilities.)

I just think a lot of those suggestions on the first page are overpowered compared to existing cards and should be scaled down/re-worked to be in line with them for effect.

I meant previous page…

What I would like to see is a change in the bumhole card- you can choose to destroy 10 scoops at random from the scoop leader, the flavor leader or min scoops leader!

The Other Other Hole Posted:

Yeah I’ve thought about that.. it’s not a bad idea.. bumhole card on the Min Scoops leader would almost be too powerful though..

Would be a very bumholish thing to do, but what if it destroys less scoops (5 maybe) for Min Scoops leader?

Portable Hole-Target another player with this card. The next time they try to buy a Domination Card, they will fail.

Medusa Bust-Target another player with this card and select a flavor. They will become unable for that week to get that scoop type after you play the card. One player may not play this on the same player multiple times, though if multiple people play it on the same player it will take all effects.

Smiley montage-The targeted player will see smileys instead of numbers on the domination board for the week and thus will only be able to tell who’s winning and not how they or anyone else is doing.

Mispelings-The targeted player will be informed of random false scoop givings. For instance, they will pwn a forum very slowly and be told they got lemon scoops for it. They will not be informed of their real scoops until the end of the week, and will not be informed that it is wrong either.

Some of these ideas are really cool, but I do hope they become more hybrid rather than 2 card combos. Having a card that will make The Destroyer sneak past a Shield is cool (and could clearly be vital in those 3 or 4 top pods where getting at one scoop can be the difference between a 5 way tie and one person taking it all), but for those outside of those pods paying 8 scoops to destroy 1 is going to seem fairly pointless.

I’d love to see different levels of Domination cards. These are your 4 scoop options, but you can choose one of these for 6 scoops and one of these for 8 scoops!

As I have posted on another thread, I think the cards we already have could use a bit of tweaking, to make them more worthwhile to spend four scoops on. Here’s my suggestion, as pulled from that other thread:

     bumhole destroys twelve scoops as follows:

       - six at random from the top player in the bracket

       - three at random from each the second and third highest players in the bracket.

     Destroyer destroys two chosen scoops from one player.

[new]Lotus Position generates three scoops of one flavour.

     Modest Improvement generates two chosen scoops.

     Peeping Tom lists all of one opponent's cards and lets you:

       - steal one card at random

       - break an active shield at random

     Shield protects you from the card type of your choice:

       - bumhole

       - Destroyer

       - Shotgun

       - Thief

     Shotgun destroys two random scoops from each of two players.

     Switcheroo stays the same because it's cosmetic.

     Thief steals from each of two players one scoop of a chosen flavour.

Quite simply, the thing to remember is that every card you buy costs you four scoops. The reward needs to be close to four scoops (and preferably less than four) to be anything resembling balanced, and most of the existing cards already do that.