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The White House wants us to report other citizens who talk poorly of his Health Care reform. | |||||||
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Not exactly sure how I feel about this, but China seems like it just moved up the list of places I’d like to live. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 3:41PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Black propaganda is dirty but effective. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 4:14PM | View Pavilion's Profile | # | ||||||
Pavilion Posted:
are you saying I’m, spreading bull**** propaganda? Maybe you should check his source, it’s the White Houses website ffs asking you to report other citizens who spread “misinformation” |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 5:11PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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WhiteHouse Posted:
They are saying that if you see websites/Chain Letters spewing nonsense about the Health Care just so you will go against it, tell them about it. Don’t see what is so bad about this. Just look at this “birther” movement. The same people who follow that are the people who will look at a website and say “It’s on the internet, it must be true!” Skyman747 edited this message on 08/07/2009 5:24PM |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 5:21PM | View Skyman747's Profile | # | ||||||
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bfdd Posted: I meant that as black propaganda. Unless you want me to label his post as black propaganda… Pavilion edited this message on 08/07/2009 5:36PM |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 5:35PM | View Pavilion's Profile | # | ||||||
Pavilion Posted:
ah ok, my misunderstanding then. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:02PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
Skyman747 Posted:
So they want you to report people who spread nonsense to the WHITE HOUSE. Did you not even read the article I posted? What they are doing breaks the law. Not to mention keeping tabs on citizens screams ****ing Mao or Stalin.
Also, what constitutes misinformation? Does me saying it’s going to cost trillions of dollars and I think it would lower the quality of health care, not to mention allow the government to ration health care because the funds aren’t there misinformation? How is that misinformation? bfdd edited this message on 08/07/2009 6:06PM |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:04PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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bfdd Posted:
What do you want out of a government, and what do you think should be done to get it? |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:11PM | View Cheins Sanchez's Profile | # | ||||||
Cheins Sanchez Posted:
? What does that have to do with this thread? Obviously I’m against them wanting citizens to snitch on other citizens for what they could possibly constitute “misinformation.” Lets not forget they said absolutely nothing about what they’d do with the names and/or email addresses of people reported for this. That leave some scary possibilities of the consequences of speaking out against their Health Care Reform policies. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:21PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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bfdd Posted:
Did you read the source article? This video that they embedded on Whitehouse.gov explains what they constitute misinformation. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:22PM | View Skyman747's Profile | # | ||||||
Skyman747 Posted:
Obviously you need to rewatch that. Anything that is disagreeable is possibly misinformation. They use the example, “If you have insurance you like, you can keep it”(bastardized because I don’t remember the right quote), he’s said that he is going to require a MINIMUM level of health coverage and if you can’t have less than that, even if your current plan is less than that right now. So by stating that am I spreading misinformation? They say it’ll cost $1 trillion over a decade, is it misinformation if I think that’s wrong and state so and try to get others to see that also? That it’ll probably cost trillions more which MANY people already believe. Or what about the fact that to do everything he wants to accomplish he would have to raise taxes not just on people who make 200k or more to get enough funding for it.
Also, this has nothing to do with what my ideals are or aren’t and has everything to do with The White House asking you to REPORT CITIZENS FOR SPREADING “MISINFORMATION”. They want you to give peoples names and what they said for whatever reason they chose to withhold. Are you ****ing kidding me? You are actually ok with this? So now people have to watch what they say because it could eventually end up in the hands of someone in Washington DC? bfdd edited this message on 08/07/2009 6:30PM |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:26PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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I think this thread is trollbait and belongs in rp. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 6:56PM | View Fortunato's Profile | # | ||||||
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Fortunato Posted:
Not really. I think this has been civil enough. Most people just don’t like religion or politics being discussed from two different angles and cry “troll” when the sparks begin to fly and actual points are being made.
As for what is happening here, it is perfectly legal. The intent is what makes this tricky. Why are the names given? |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:01PM | View Father Time's Profile | # | ||||||
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I suppose instead of asking citizens to report misinformation, they should just setup warrantless wiretaps on folks. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:17PM | View Ricket's Profile | # | ||||||
Father Time Posted:
5 US Code §552a(e)(7) commands that any Federal agency
“(7) maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity;”
Not really legal… Unless they plan on going after people for libel and slander. If they choose that route then George W Bush better start filing lawsuits against 80% of the population of the USA. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:21PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Ricket Posted:
The article doesn’t say to report people, it just says that word of mouth is one way rumors can spread. It says to report websites and chainmail, places were you will find people twisting words and preaching there ideas. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:23PM | View Skyman747's Profile | # | ||||||
Skyman747 Posted:
So report websites because websites aren’t ran by people and chainmails definitely aren’t written by people. So just report the “substance?” Lol that’s not what they want. They want you to forward chain mails to them or report sites to them. They can see who is sending around or writing these chain mails and they can definitely find out who is running a website. You’re being pretty dense. Not to mention they even say “casual conversation” so your friends or coworkers. So you’re going to just send “Someone told me this” no you’re going to say “My friend John said this” |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:34PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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Seems like the Gregorian calendar is wrong, next year is obviously going to be 1984.
All I can really say about the entire socialized health care plan is that you guys voted the most radical of the left wing democrats in last election. You have no one to blame but yourself. |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:40PM | View Xylon's Profile | # | ||||||
Xylon Posted:
Not I. I voted “Zombie Thomas Jefferson.” |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:45PM | View bfdd's Profile | # | ||||||
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bfdd, if you were say, trying to correct all the rumours regarding health care that “travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation” how would you do it? |
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Posted On: 08/07/2009 7:50PM | View Ricket's Profile | # | ||||||