Inertia Posted:

why does everything need to be moved to rp. if you can’t express yourself here freely then there’s either something wrong with what you want to say or with this place

A lot of people feel that there is something wrong with that .

What if someone posts personal information about someone that is true but said person denies it and makes a thread in non-rp saying that the information is untrue even though the information is really true and the ban is deserved but he doesn’t want everyone to know that it’s his personal information?

Sancdar Posted:

Wait, so like when you got banned for “alt-revealing” emohunter? Does that make you or JB a troll?

haha

The would be me Log in to see images!

I got into that thread after CS edited his OP, and had no idea of the drama surrounding it. I saw a great opportunity to troll the way I like to (remember the Log in to see images!

I quickly checked to see which other mods were online, and JB won. I made the post which “alt-revealed” (the ridiculous and clearly false combination of emoh unter and ghax), and asked JB to tempban me for it. The results appeared to be exactly what I was hoping for Log in to see images!

Inertia Posted:

you mean “don’t report things like this” or “don’t post fake info”?

As to this, I meant “don’t post fake info”. I can’t imagine what reason anyone would have to do so, honestly.

It’s not a rule, you’re free to post false info if you want, but if you happen to stumble across the truth and get banned for it, we’re not going to be sympathetic. And if we decide you were posting the info in an effort to use the banning to determine the truth, you’re likely to find yourself banned for a long time without any confirmation of which post it was for.

Fingerz has been site-banned for a week for posting offsite info about Celerysteve against his wishes.

It’s true that he initially shared some of this info on IDC. However, IDC is unmoderated. You can’t use IDC as a basis to decide acceptable behavior here in Flamebate.

The only reason Fingerz hasn’t been permabanned is because a moderator (TUBSWEETIE) thought that it would be okay to post and gave her the green light. Tubs should’ve known better, and he is getting three days’ suspension from the site as well.

Due to the cirgreat timesstances, I decided it was in everyone’s best interests to be fairly lenient this time. However, in the future, we may not be. As MCB wisely said, “Just don’t do it.”

Alts should be considered personal information.

Someone could have an alt of a screen name they use somewhere they use their real name. We must stamp out any detectivery before things get out of hand!

There are tons of people who pay for alts just to RP something new.

Then people go around and out who they are?

That not being against the rules is just Log in to see images!

It’s kind of hypocritical to alt reveal, make photoshops of people IRL that go here, and then cry fowl when somebody posts something you wrote on the internet for everyone to see.

Skyman747 Posted:

And @ JB, as ChilePepino pointed out in RP, SpaceKadt also gave Fingerz the green light to post that, so in all equalness should she be suspended as well?

As I understand it (I wasn’t directly involved, so this might be inaccurate), spacekadt gave the green light to repost the original pic, the one that CS posted a link to in IDC. Tubs gave the greenlight to post the newly found, similar pic, that was NOT posted by CS in IDC.

It is this second pic that is the relevant issue. That was never posted in IDC, so even if we were to debate whether or not reposting info from IDC counts as a rule violation, finding new information that was not posted in IDC definitely is.

Skyman747 Posted:

I disagree with alts being Personal Information, and I really don’t think alt revealing should be against the rules. I don’t see anything wrong with alt revealing as long as you aren’t abusing your power to do it. If someone decided to reveal them via Klan forum or IDC and there was someone untrustworthy where the revealed it, then I think the fault is on the person who told them.

And @ JB, as ChilePepino pointed out in RP, SpaceKadt also gave Fingerz the green light to post that, so in all equalness should she be suspended as well?

Why ? Both are things that people, for the most part, do not want others to find out, whether it be someones address, or an alter-ego . The point is, they don’t want people to know, so how is it different ? As for giving the information to only some people, not making outing them against the rules is rewarding people who betray other’s trust, and I don’t think that is right at all .