Obviously you can’t retire someone as soon as they get the peen for a leaderboard because there would be 365 people receiving each peen every year. It would give some of the newer players a chance to top leaderboards if the person topping it was removed after being #1 for 30 consecutive days or something. Personally I’d like to see this more than milestone peens as it solves the problem of leaderboard hogging without forcing someone to stop playing an area of the game, but still requires some effort to obtain.

kittiejenn Posted:

Obviously you can’t retire someone as soon as they get the peen for a leaderboard because there would be 365 people receiving each peen every year. It would be fantastic and give some of the newer players a chance to top leaderboards if the person topping it was removed after being #1 for 30 consecutive days or something. Personally I’d like to see this more than milestone peens as it solves the problem of leaderboard hogging without forcing someone to stop playing an area of the game, but still requires some effort to obtain.

imo this is an excellent suggestion for boards where scores may only go up.

for buildr score, popularity, and Hall of **** votes, the removal should not be forced

Milestones would be great, or the 30 day idea. They don’t have to be removed, but if you put a little marker beside ther name which says that they’ve held it for 30 days and then remove them from the peen calculations just to give others a chance.

To repeat what has already been said, it’s discouraging to newer players to see a 10 point gap which is completely insurmountable without the player above them quitting for a time. Ricket is just playing the game normally so he shouldn’t be penalized for that, but at the same time, why should everyone who started playing after him be penalized for that and unable to get that peen?

And for the inevitable outcry of “Hey, we worked for our peens, so can you” I am working for my peens, and by the grace of joining later, many are forever unavailable and to get Leaderboard peens I have to work many times harder. A score of 71 could have won someone a peen early on when now they need over 2000 and more each day, it’s a matter of timing.

I’m a completionist when it comes to games and I like stupid game achievements. I’m not the only one and it would be nice for the peens to seem reasonable through hard work, not hard work and a killing spree.

People need to stop trying to take my leaderboard away from me. Log in to see images!

Srsly though, if something like this were implemented, I’d just drop down until I’m ~3 visits ahead of Grendel, so we’d just continually pbum each other every few days, and neither of us would reach the 30 day limit.

When you start handing out the top leaderboard spots because person X has worked pretty hard, but not actually beaten the top player, you make the top spot effectively meaningless.

This change also wouldn’t make much sense, because the most forums pwned leaderboard builds far more quickly than folks could be retired from it. The top players have thousands of visits up there. A new player isn’t going to get there any time soon. You’ll just be rewarding different oldfabulous persons.

Ricket is just playing the game normally so he shouldn’t be penalized for that, but at the same time, why should everyone who started playing after him be penalized for that and unable to get that peen?

Because you didn’t earn it. You didn’t start playing when I did, and you didn’t put in the effort I did (no matter how little you might claim it requires). Is that fair? Not really. And I don’t think it needs to be.

CrinkzPipe Posted:

And the elitism shows. Why should it be fair that you found the game sooner and you let no one else get the peen?

Never hid that, Crinkz. Check every leaderboard retirement thread I’ve posted in. I’m notoriously unapologetic about my position.

Also, I said it isn’t fair. I also said I don’t think it needs to be.

The way that leaderboard’s designed, I’m leading it. That might change if I lose interest in running my visits. I didn’t always top that leaderboard, you know. When I started playing, Paraone was at the top with something like 500 visits. He stopped playing when Episode 2 rolled. The most pwned board is a low-turnover board, but the leader does change eventually.

Agreeing to KJ. It may not be true for all peens, but look at the Best Auctioneer Leaderboard.

People on top can concentrate on other things and still do Kyoubai, so that peen is out of reach. Just like the Flamebate peen – if some huge threads wouldn’t have been deleted. The other half got the peen when it was awarded by clbum or in the first hours/days, when the requirements were different.

Goals should be reachable, even if it takes long.

but then the leaderboard lose its most basic, original purpose. which is a hi-score table.

you’ll see the leaderboard and you won’t be sure if the #1 on the leaderboard is actually the #1 player in that category.

I kind of agree with Ricket.

I don’t want an achievement lowered in stature just to coddle the players who feel slighted. If an oldfabulous person has the leaderboard, they deserve the spot.

I’ve also never understood the point of “retire the leaderboard so no one can get it.”

That’s absolutely, 100% moronic. It’s saying, “Let’s take a board that has a low possibility of ever changing” and make it “Let’s have a board with no possibility whatsoever of changing.” And that’s an improvement HOW? Because you can stop working for it? Please.

I’ve been working towards the #1 buildr board for nearly a year now. Plk still has like 16 weeks head start on me, but I don’t plan on quitting until I pbum her. If someone finally just up and retired her from head spot, and started giving the lower players peens, it would devalue the achievement. I want to legitimately beat the #1, I don’t want to get the “congrats,-you’re-in-second-place-but-we-feel-sorry-for-you” peen.

Quit bellyaching and just hope Ricket gets bored sometime.

Adapt Posted:

One thing I would like to see is something come of all these threads.

What if they’re fine the way they are? I don’t want something to come out of it just for change’s sake. That’s what Obama does, and see how well it’s working?

Change just for change’s sake is a bad idea. Leave the leaderboards alone. (I’d be fine with milestone peens though, just more peenage for me. Log in to see images!

Shii Posted:

What if they’re fine the way they are? I don’t want something to come out of it just for change’s sake. That’s what Obama does, and see how well it’s working?

Change just for change’s sake is a bad idea. Leave the leaderboards alone. (I’d be fine with milestone peens though, just more peenage for me. Log in to see images!

This is not change for changes sake, and this issue wouldn’t have come up N+1 times if it was. We have a real problem that needs to be addressed – a lack of attainable (and interesting) goals for new (and old) players.