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Politics What defines a country?

Amphitrite

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Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

I really want to know, since my homeland was termed a “state” and or “province” by multiple sources when I grew up learning it was a country?

If you need to know what place it is. It is Taiwan.

Edit:

Noticed it was getting views but no one’s posting maybe because they thought I was being stupid -_-

Amphitrite edited this message on 05/27/2009 3:53PM

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
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[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

This is the one I’ve heard about in dispute for the “minimum” requirements to be it’s own nation most recently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand

Keakealani

Avatar: 183276 Sun May 31 19:53:42 -0400 2009

Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

Well, depending on the context, “state” is often synonymous with “country” or “nation” – but all those terms seem to have some social and political nuance, as well. Taiwan really is a difficult case, in a lot of ways, because it’s politically infeasible to ignore the PRC’s claims over Taiwan, but at the same time there are clearly several reasons that Taiwan is separate from the mainland of China socially, culturally, and politically. Defining a country by nature really has to balance the views of the people within the given disputed territory, and the views of the outside. A country is hardly a country if nobody recognizes it as a country (like the example of Sealand given in the previous post) but likewise, if the people within a territory have no cultural ties or sense of unity and nationalism, calling it a country won’t make it true.

So I guess what defines a country is a territory that can both foster a sense of national unity and resolve outside disputes in order to gain recognition on a global basis. In broader terms, a country can be those territories where the line isn’t so clear cut, but the balance still remains.

murmur

Avatar: 44610 2009-10-18 07:40:22 -0400
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Level 41 Emo Kid

“Sad-Ass”

Do you have a flag?

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
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[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

Is Guam a country?

Amphitrite

Avatar: Guitar Girl

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Guam isn’t a country; it’s a colony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States#Incorporated_and_unincorporated_territories

Edit: didn’t want to make two posts in a row so included this in edit now

Well there are some small african countries are willing to recognize Taiwan as a country. Though a number of those countries are turning away though.

Taiwan can never gain international recognition as an independent country simply because China will never give up its claim. I guess when China bascially controls the economy , no one in their right mind dares to irritate them in any degree.

Amphitrite edited this message on 05/28/2009 11:37PM

momentumener-
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Level 35 Hacker

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the question in my mind is why China hasn’t invaded yet

Amphitrite

Avatar: Guitar Girl

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

China doesn’t need to send an army over to invade. China already has a bunch of inside people brainwashing the Taiwanese. Seriously there are Chinese people (The KMT party) calling for unification. The Taiwanese president has an US green card prepared so it doesn’t really matter to him what happens to Taiwan and its people.

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Avatar: 143340 Fri Mar 27 18:24:34 -0400 2009
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Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Basically you need:

– Independence (duh)

– Autonomy (of most kinds)

– Recognition (from other countries)

– Territory (duh)

– Government

Keakealani

Avatar: 183276 Sun May 31 19:53:42 -0400 2009

Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

Amphitrite Posted:

I guess when China bascially controls the economy , no one in their right mind dares to irritate them in any degree.

Quoted for truth.

This is pretty much the reason Taiwan isn’t really going to be recognized as a separate country – that, and the fact that it’s not really completely united in whether or not its populous wants to be an independent nation; like you said, there are a lot of people from China there, as well as many Taiwanese who are “brainwashed” as you say it, or just who for whatever reason think they’d rather be part of China (and I’m not pbuming judgement as to whether or not it’s right or wrong)

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