Shii Posted:

Forgetting Modest Improvement?

You’d need 40 MIs for that…

nevermind, misread.

Dunatis Posted:

I think that the point the OP is trying to make is that if everyone gathers scoops in exactly the same way and gets much the same amounts (depending on where you are in a streak) it would be about the same to just give everyone X scoops of whatever flavor every week and just card each other into wins or losses from there.

However with the way the flavors are set up (based on different requirements) they will of course remain essentially exclusive from each other, though I like the idea of making Antifreeze sort of an Anti-lemon as far as damage taken. Even if the scoops awarded are always 3 per run, you’d have to almost choose which flavor they are which would be the closest thing to strategy scoop gathering has next to refreshing the vanilla raid page.

There would, of course, need to be some sort of strategy to Antifreeze beyond Antifreeze=3-Lemon. That would just be stupid.

plk Posted:

Honestly, it doesn’t even matter that much how many scoops an individual can get. It’s all about having more people than your opponent in your bracket so that there are extra people to card down completely on the last day, run solos just to create cards for offense (destroying the opponent’s cards and shields), and interrupt any last-minute solos. And if you want fav or total, you additionally need to be at the upper end of your pistachio loop. If you’re not in the numeric majority in your bracket and everybody is playing, I don’t really see the point in even bothering to play it out.

Not to single you out plk because several posters have made similar comments, but I have to disagree. I currently have 3 of the top 6 medal winners for the season without belonging to BF, GGM or BoD. There are other strategies that can work.

Malaise Posted:

Not to single you out plk because several posters have made similar comments, but I have to disagree. I currently have 3 of the top 6 medal winners for the season without belonging to BF, GGM or BoD. There are other strategies that can work.

Sorry, but you just don’t get hit by nearly as many people as I or my klannies do and you additionally get support from people in both BF and GGM when one of us is up against you. So, what I’m saying still stands. Individual scoop earnings are largely irrelevant when the real issue is how many people will take out your competition or avoid hitting you.

Fortunato Posted:

Part of the problem for p much everybody who’s in a klan or aggressively pursues political help in brackets is that they get targeted; two weeks ago this happened to me. If you play in a klan and work with people, you make friends and enemies. That’s how things work. Mal doesn’t do that, and hence, he mostly gets left alone.

I know, and that’s just the way it is. But what I’m saying is that if you think that everyone has an equal chance, that’s just not the case when bracket composition and alliances (or being able to navigate around them or stay under the radar) play such a huge role. Playing against the same small group of people week after week gets old pretty quickly. Personally, I find it more fun when I don’t already know who everybody in the bracket is and who they’ll work with.

plk Posted:

I find it more fun when I don’t already know who everybody in the bracket is and who they’ll work with.

Now THERE’s an interesting theme idea: Anonymous week.

Instead of seeing your opponents’ names, you see unique IDs. Those IDs are different for each user so if you’re in the same bracket as playerA and playerB, playerA may see you as 123 while playerB sees you as 456. Of course, you wouldn’t see klans either.

And to top it off, maybe you don’t get to see your dom bracket name or position either. So you can’t just tell your klan buddies “I’m in so-and-so bracket with 1 chocolate scoop, grab my ID now!”

Fortunato Posted:

We don’t, really. I opted to work with ricket and prevented amasius from medaling two weeks ago. Alliances shift and change.

A few outliers don’t really change the general trend.

zagerblag Posted:

Still exploitable, but good. I think that scoop totals are too unique to allow forced, true anonymity, though.

Leechbait Posted:

a bteter idea is a full annonymous week where even you dont know ohw many scoops you have

keep track carefgully to orchestrate klan ties and ****

From this thread a couple months back. Also I guess for an anonymous week like that you should allow ties in the top three brackets like in all the other brackets just to make the strategies more interesting. And of course, blank card totals out as well.

Of course, there are a couple other ways to find out who’s who. I think you’d have to have people enter the bracket a random amount of time (up to 6 hours, perhaps?) after their first scoop for at least the first four days, or switch up IDs again for everybody after each addition to the bracket if you really want no information to go out.

How would offense/defense notifications work? I guess if people burn 4 scoops to get a 1/N chance of identifying a friend that isn’t too bad. Especially with the random entry added, so you can’t try to card everyone in your bracket when there’s only 5 people at the start and you know one of the other 4 is a klannie.

I think a full-anon week would be fun and interesting if people got into it, but it’s really awkward to make fool-proof so I doubt it’ll happen.

Dunatis Posted:

With all the complaints about Dom being boring (from the vocal minority at the top)

It’s pretty hard not to get near the top if you try at Dom every week. The bottom brackets are filled with acres of players who don’t use any cards, and I presume they mostly get their scoops through grinding their daily/12ly visits and then just occasionally luck into medals. The longer a season’s gone on, the less likely it is that anyone talking about Dom won’t have had the ability to medal.

Considering that the non-vocal majority at the bottom doesn’t consider the game interesting enough to explore any of the current mechanics (like winning medals), maybe we should just lump them in as auto-complainers.