The only thing I don’t like are these “special items” bonuses. Either it’s gonna be terribly overpowered (read: no) or it’s gonna give advantage as minor as +2-5 offense (read: not worth it).

The simple solution would be adding your current equipment (at least .moars) to public profile so people could brag those “klan” .moars and painfully gained Dakota Fanning (lol). The actual idea behind .moar are fetishes (as far as I could see it) which are clearly supposed to be “public”.

Collectors screens go well with these too – basically the same coding part.

Everything else is amazing, GJ scully.

My personal issue with your idea is that it does not sound like it would be much fun.

Sure, it’s a compromise of sorts, but a boring one. Especially for a small klan that would rather focus on spending their time playing a game well rather than mindlessly recruiting bodies just to rack up “klan scoops.” Yawn.

CrinkzPipe Posted:

Is dom even fun as it currently is?

There are moments when things could go either way in the 5 minutes before the end of the round when it can get very interesting, but they’re rare, and it’s alot of effort to reach that point.

scully Posted:

Perhaps you should talk to Ricket and see who he thinks would hit a good reward first BoD or WeChall.

WeChall probably. I don’t really know why a klan would want to raid under the system you’ve proposed. Where’s the part where my klan works as a team, and gains a meaningful advantage in a given round? It just seems grindy and boring, honestly. Am I missing the awesomeness somewhere here?

scully Posted:

– Separate the clbumes on the speed boards. (This would also be the first step to eliminating the stupid 1, 2, 1, 2 crap since clbumes wouldn’t need to be comparatively equal.)

– Keep the 5 alts per week rule.

I think these are fine suggestions.

scully Posted:

- Pistachio loops – ok this is kind of radical, but cap pistachio delivering loops at 68 forums.

Anti-signing this, as high end pistachio loops are the only way I’ve been able to gather any medals recently. It isn’t simply the level of destruction going on in my bracket, but the fact that I’m really at a numbers disadvantage here by not being in BF or GGM. When half people in a bracket are working together, high volume scoops at the last second are really the only way to stand a chance.

scully Posted:

- Chocolate scoops. Either implement one of the ideas restricting the way submissions work or just slap a cap on the scoops earned. The buildr utilities are a cool concept. As soon as they are meshed with the weekly competitive aspect of Dom there is a different motivation for playing. It lessens the quality of buildr, it leaves everything open to name calling and finger pointing.

Caps and other artificial restrictions on the way submissions can be used will stifle creativity, imho. And I really don’t think the quality of buildr has been lessened.

scully Posted:

It is unreasonable that I have the ability to submit 27 ideas and earn scoops from all of them and that the number I am able to submit will likely keep climbing ensuring that a newer player can never possibly hope to complete.

I’d much prefer a change in the way buildr score increases/decreases, such as a bell curve with a range from +7 to -7, dependent on how all your ideas managed to do over the week (or perhaps your ratio of upvotes and downvotes compared to the average). The insurmountable buildr scores are really only an issue because everyone’s can only increase by 2 each week. The genuinely good buildrs will rise to the top of a system like this.

scully Posted:

Dom cards.

You addressed the issues here perfectly. I think the range you’ve proposed for the bumhole is good, as I’ve always bumumed the increase back to 10 was to deal with the high level of klan vanilla scoops. For the stray bullet, I’d suggest having it only work 50% of the time. It is a stray bullet, after all.

scully Posted:

Vanilla. Leave solo as it is.

I don’t agree with this, largely for the same reason I agree with the bumhole change. I think the vanilla change was done to combat high klan raid yields, which no longer exist.

Holy ****, this is a lot of quoting and typing.

I like a lot of these ideas. Klan raiding, when it’s not mandatory to win medals, can be kind of fun at times. Side game klan scoops are a definite yes from me.

I’m letting the idea roll around in my head.

My initial reaction is excitement. The biggest feature for me is that is gives people who aren’t interested in staying home at dom end (me) a reason to raid again. I’m not sure anyone else cares about long term goals in a community setting. Do the people who got Super-Chai feel like it was rewarding? Is the fact that cherry will be a shared goal enough to create more grinders? (I don’t have Super-Chai.) All in all, I care far more about raiding being worthwhile to people who don’t care for dom than “fixing” dom.

I’m in favor of the change (cherry) that would affect me. The rest of the incredibly well thought out suggestion seems to be a very big improvement that still doesn’t fix the thing which irritates me most: having to be present at the end of dom in order to compete. I’m planning on banking scoops every time I get them just to avoid domination.

I’m a tad worried that the megaklan advantage would make rewards trivial for some klans and nearly unobtainable for others. However, given that klan size changes, I’m not sure there is a good solution. One idea: use a multiplier when cherry scoops are banked that is inversely proportional to klan size at that moment. Gameable, though. Perhaps base the multiplier on the highest number of active players in the klan during the previous week. Something like

Scoops Banked * y = Scoops added to klan total, where y = 10/number of klan members

But, you know, better. And balanced. Eh, I’m just hoping out loud now. Table’d be easier to figure out. Multiplier needs a floor somewhere.

I agree with Auser and will add that without incentive to win rewards for myself I would not do this. It’s as simple as that.

Either way dom needs an overhaul, since all that matters right now is having a high streak and running at the last ten minutes, at least without klan vanilla.

scully Posted:

I think it is interesting that you have no problem with scoop control in any area except your preferred area of play. I guess we can agree to differ on that. I simply think that things that will automatically exclude newer players from being competitive regardless of effort are bad for the game. 6 months or a year from now, if left as is, the top buildr people won’t need to do anything except play buildr in order to win at Dom. That seems silly.

Why is that interesting? Throughout my little rant I made no effort to try to hide the fact that I do a lot of Forumbuildr.

And guess WHY I do a lot of Forumbuildr? Because it’s good for Dom. Saying that it’s interesting I have no issue with scoop control is also a completely untrue fact, when I stated several times that I feel there should be FEWER caps on EVERYTHING.

I told you I didn’t support your cap on pistachio, I don’t like anything being capped. Quit putting words in my mouth.

And also, after a certain while, the effectiveness of multiple submissions goes down anyway. You can’t honestly think that my last 10 submissions are going to be as funny/good as my first 10, right?

I only have SO MUCH creativity, after all. I think the fact that plk has 85+ Buildr score and still “can’t just play Buildr to win dom” proves the point that chocolate isn’t going to be breaking dom any time soon.

Shii Posted:

Don’t EVEN compare chocolate to klan vanilla. On an incredible week I MIGHT get 200 chocolates.

That’s because you don’t work in areas where you might get a lot of chocolate. It’s a known fact that people avoid most of the written buildr content because it’s simply too much to vote at.

Shii Posted:

I spent weeks doing Forum Ideas, using up to half my submissions on them. Typically that’s where people claim the most chocolate is.

Except, that’s bumuming you’re good at writing forum ideas. I’m very much not, so I stick to the areas I am good at.

But if plk and Bashy who both utilize the big numbers of chocolate to their fullest in forum ideas still have difficulty medaling even WITH pistachio streaks, clearly chocolate isn’t as broken as you guys think it is.

plk gets a lot of chocolate because she has a really big buildr score and can simply flood buildr with submissions. Bashy is a good writer for the mbumes, the number of forums he created explains that very well.

Back when I would work on making buildr logos, I reaped a good 50 scoops per week. I didn’t try doing icons yet, but I believe I could do just as well there.