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Gay Court jails Pirate Bay founders

Inertia

Avatar: 60995 Fri Apr 03 12:59:05 -0400 2009
34

[Shii is gay]

Level 35 Troll

also wow i have no male reproductive organ

do people actually search music from piratebay?

I just do games mainly.. with occasional tv series like heroes or skins

but i use isohunt nowadays

Inertia edited this message on 04/18/2009 5:06AM

meeeeeeeeee

Avatar: 15443 2010-04-04 18:27:25 -0400
49

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

Sneakily vicious and filled with virtuous pit bulls.

Shii Posted:

Stolen music accounted for 51% of all mp3 downloads last year; that’s 51% revenue for the companies and artists lost. That means they are having to DOUBLE the price on the rest of the music to make up for it.

The quality of my life may be reduced in certain ways if I don’t have access to the media, but that does not mean I’ll go ahead and purchase it over, say, buying food or paying my bills. If I don’t have any spare money, I’ll find other, cheaper ways to entertain myself. Your high prices have priced me out of the market. At that point, it’s irrelevant whether I download your product, since you haven’t lost a sale either way.

Doubling prices using the excuse of the loss of that imaginary sale only goes to push more people from the legal IP purchasing market, and into illegal downloading, or else, simply never seeing your overpriced, overproduced, price gouging product. Basically, it’s dishonest economics. You only push the prices up because some people are willing to pay more, and you make overall more profit. If the majority were able to pay those prices, you would have further proof that your business model is working, and you can push prices up even more. Why are console games generally higher priced than PC games, when they are identical products, but console games are more difficult to copy, and therefore pirated less? I realise the answer isn’t a simple one, but part of the reason for the high prices is *because* the copyright holder has a captive audience, not despite it.

Intellectual property is not the same as real property, since with digital distribution, infinite copies can be made at zero cost. The worth of the ‘item’ is defined and constrained by laws, but if those laws are mutable, wrong, illogical or unfair, then people are going to push back against them.

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
33

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

One of the last things I downloaded from there was a “FalconFour Boot Disk”

really

Physics

Avatar: 83756 2009-10-01 09:57:31 -0400
19

[Phantasmagoric Spl-
endor
]

Level 69 Hacker

Making laws and snuggling dark matter.

The Jagged R-
ock Fondler

Avatar: 97179 Mon Mar 23 17:25:01 -0400 2009
3

[bumhurt Virgins]

Level 28 Permanoob

“Brain Dead”

I found this on your interwebs! I thought the title had was relevent to your thread.

So i downloaded the album from TPB…

As for the court case,i belive they are appealing against the decision,so it could be a long time before any of them see the inside of a prison cell.

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
33

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

Is sweden similar to here in the u.s. in that if they order a year incarcerated, the person will actually sit like 7 months with “good behavior”?

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

Shii Posted:

Stolen music accounted for 51% of all mp3 downloads last year; that’s 51% revenue for the companies and artists lost. That means they are having to DOUBLE the price on the rest of the music to make up for it.

That is some mad fallacy right there, not to mention confounding POTENTIAL with ACTUAL sales.

If you think more than 0.1% of pirates would even consider buying the product instead of downloading it for free, you have to be pretty ****ing naive/stupid.

drussthebrit-
ishbastard

Avatar: 61156 Fri Jan 09 16:01:01 -0500 2009
15

Level 68 Troll

Finest upstanding member of society, ever!

I know you guys feel obliged to share your personal opinions about all of this (be it positive or negative) but I know discussions about the gray area of file sharing will ultimately go nowhere and convince people to stop or otherwise.

Don’t get worked up at each other, just saying. *moves on*

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Patently Chi-
ll Prestidig-
itator

Avatar: 128746 2011-10-09 04:24:59 -0400
8

[love is a dog from-
hell
]

Level 69 Troll

Celerysteve is incredible... he is just so... so incredible.

First of all, I’d like to say that the people who make the most money from the CD sales are not the musicians. The producing company usually takes most of the money from these sales. This is an important fact that everyone in this conversation has left out. Mainstream musicians get most of their money from touring and advertising. The CD sales just help them gain notoriety, and what better way to gain notoriety than letting anyone listen to your music for free? This is not a war of the musicians vs. the evil pirates who steal their work but a war between the large producing companies and the mbumes who can’t afford to buy all the music they’d like because of the ridiculously high prices the record companies have set for the discs and/or mp3s.

Anyone remember the Greatful Dead and their American tour? This tour was followed by the so-called Dead-Heads all through the continent and, even though these people were all bootleggers, they helped the band get a major following by distributing their music for free. This way, more people came to the venues, which were the primary source of income for the band. I know I would never go to a concert of a band I’ve never heard play and it’s impossible for us, the average music listeners (who are mostly in their 20s or teenagers – let’s face it, these people don’t have that much money to spend, be it due to the fact that they get money on their parents discretions or because they’ve just started working and get payed just enough to pay the rent and buy food) to check out new music at the prices they’re charging for the CDs these days. As for the money it costs to make the cds, be it royalties or actual production costs, Shii makes the bumumption that this cash is lost because people pirate. Let’s make one thing clear: if I download a song, the artist doesn’t pay $.91 because of that. Not to mention that this is not the fans fault. It’s the fault, once more, of the giant record companies (the same people who stifle creativity and make everyone sound the same – seriously, listen to three random artists in the mainstream and tell me if you think they’re all that different).

In conclusion, I urge you all to bootleg and support the bands you like by going to their gigs.

DOPE-HARDCOR-
E-0

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2

[Team Shortbus]

Level 37 Troll

ALSO A male reproductive organSUCKING ****WAD

MC Banhammer Posted:

Those people aren’t criminals. They’re people who produce a product and set a charge for it. It’s no different than people who build a house where you might like the bedrooms and dining room but hate the kitchen. You have no right to possess the house without purchase simply because you don’t like part of it.

You can tour a house before buying it. And negotiate the price if something sucks.

DOPE-HARDCOR-
E-0

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2

[Team Shortbus]

Level 37 Troll

ALSO A male reproductive organSUCKING ****WAD

Shii Posted:

Did anyone actually READ my post?

EDIT: In case you didn’t, here you go:

Oleg is 100% right. Stolen music accounted for 51% of all mp3 downloads last year; that’s 51% revenue for the companies and artists lost. That means they are having to DOUBLE the price on the rest of the music to make up for it.

Also, providing a service that lets people infringe is just as illegal. It’s called contributory infringement, and regardless of whether they’re causing the direct infringement, it’s just as illegal. Furthermore, it’s vicarious infringement as well, in that they are being compensated financially for infringement occurring under their supervision.

They deserve every bit of time that they get.

No, because you used the patently incorrect argument that all illegally downloaded music would otherwise have been purchased.

E: Also, RIAA tends to ‘not be able to locate its clients to pay out royalties’ (including bands as small and unheard of as, say, U2). There’s a Wired article on it, I’m too lazy to link it. RIAA and MPAA protect the interests of the studios and care **** all about the authors. If you stop writing content, they will find another two bit hack that will debase themselves even more on MTV and replace you.

DOPE-HARDCORE-0 edited this message on 04/18/2009 11:04AM

Iron Lich

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Level 69 Troll

FOR KIPPY AND COUNTRY, REMEMBER KIPPY, HE WAS A HAPPY SARDINE.

”There has been a perception that piracy is OK and that the music industry should just have to accept it. This verdict will change that,”

haha, no it won’t, this joke of a verdict will only make things even worse in terms of piracy.

drussthebrit-
ishbastard

Avatar: 61156 Fri Jan 09 16:01:01 -0500 2009
15

Level 68 Troll

Finest upstanding member of society, ever!

Erm, guys? Take notice of me for just a second. I repeat, it’s not worth getting worked up over this.

DOPE-HARDCOR-
E-0

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2

[Team Shortbus]

Level 37 Troll

ALSO A male reproductive organSUCKING ****WAD

Iron Lich Posted:

haha, no it won’t, this joke of a verdict will only make things even worse in terms of piracy.

It already spiked the amount of people signing up for TPB’s anonymization services.

Iron Lich

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Level 69 Troll

FOR KIPPY AND COUNTRY, REMEMBER KIPPY, HE WAS A HAPPY SARDINE.

drussthebritishbastard Posted:

Erm, guys? Take notice of me for just a second. I repeat, it’s not worth getting worked up over this.

Yes, but what else is more entertaining than this at the moment?

Nillo

Avatar: 13243 2012-08-08 16:31:36 -0400
13

[COMPOSOLITION]

Level 35 Emo Kid

May your aqua splash stay wet like a young girl in her prime. Hold your machetes high!

I know I’m a bit late to the party since I haven’t really paid any attention to Forumwarz in the last month, but I’m going to clear some things up anyway since I am here in Sweden and have been following the trial since the beginning.

First off, the title of this thread is incorrect. The founders of TPB have not been jailed yet. In Sweden, a verdict does not become lawful until all appeals have been processed, and the district court (Stockholms Tingsrätt) is just the first step of the ladder. Furthermore it has been revealed that the judge was biased due to being a member of the pro-copyright organization SFU (Svenska föreningen för upphovsrätt) together with the prosecution, so a retrial may be allowed.

Secondly, the trial wasn’t all bad. It dramatically increased awareness of the file-sharing issue in the public, and subsequently the Pirate Party’s membership has skyrocketed. At this point they actually have a chance to get a seat in the European Parliament. I am not making this up!

Anyway, what I’m saying is, don’t whine about the verdict. It doesn’t mean anything. The Internets will survive. File sharing will survive. Even the Pirate Bay itself will probably survive. Meanwhile, the ranks of the Pirates continue to swell. And if the lawmakers of Sweden decide that “bumisting making available copyrighted content” is illegal, which is exactly what every search engine on the Internet is doing, we’ll change the ****ing laws.

Colonel Bear

Avatar: 68748 Mon May 18 15:38:07 -0400 2009
13

[Very Busy Klan]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

So this happened two weeks ago, and I downloaded a torrent for a “Pink Floyd Discography” yesterday. hmmmm

Healbot

Avatar: 25938 Wed Oct 22 16:28:36 -0400 2008
7

[The Protected]

Level 49 Troll

“Complete Dipshit”

Largehardoncollider Posted:

So this happened two weeks ago, and I downloaded a torrent for a “Pink Floyd Discography” yesterday. hmmmm

Keep us updated on your pirate exploits, buddy.

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