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Poll CP vs. CP

Langston Jon-
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Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
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Um, I wouldn’t ban anyone. Wylin is the most srs and rule abiding guy I know and would never say ‘Hehehe child pornography’. Now then the mods made the right call in remove the image. I think the safest thing to do is never post anything were you can make out a child’s genitalia, or anything obviously sexualized.

Look at the poster and see what his intent was, Wylin is guilty of posting a picture with some sad aspect of sexuality, but he is not guilty of doing so on purpose. He should not be banned.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Raepdog Posted:

Um, I wouldn’t ban anyone. Wylin is the most srs and rule abiding guy I know and would never say ‘Hehehe child pornography’. Now then the mods made the right call in remove the image. I think the safest thing to do is never post anything were you can make out a child’s genitalia, or anything obviously sexualized.

Look at the poster and see what his intent was, Wylin is guilty of posting a picture with some sad aspect of sexuality, but he is not guilty of doing so on purpose. He should not be banned.

i have pictures of my son taking a bath, and you can see his “weenor” and i dont think they are sexualized, just like the picture whylin posted, but law experts can have a difrent judgement

I HATE NIGS

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Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

i have pictures of my son taking a bath, and you can see his “weenor” and i dont think they are sexualized, just like the picture whylin posted, but law experts can have a difrent judgement

The kid in my pic was covered up, and your picture wouldn’t be child porn either. If I posted a picture of nirvana’s nevermind cd cover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermind)with the little baby in the water with his “weenor” dangling, am I posting child porn? How did they get away with selling it? That’s right, it’s not sexualized and therefore isn’t child porn.

Infact, the threads about an underage forumwarz player’s panties is more cp than the pic I posted.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Wylin Posted:

The kid in my pic was covered up, and your picture wouldn’t be child porn either. If I posted a picture of nirvana’s nevermind cd cover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermind)with the little baby in the water with his “weenor” dangling, am I posting child porn? How did they get away with selling it? That’s right, it’s not sexualized and therefore isn’t child porn.

Infact, the threads about an underage forumwarz player’s panties is more cp than the pic I posted.

I did it yesterday acctualy to see if I would get banned

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/32665

Wylin

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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

I did it yesterday acctualy to see if I would get banned

http://www.forumwarz.com/discussions/view/3266

Not every picture of a kid is porn. (I still wouldn’t post naked pics of kids to try and push the limits though) but that cd cover is an excellent example.

Langston Jon-
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Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
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Level 35 Camwhore

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Wylin Posted:

The kid in my pic was covered up, and your picture wouldn’t be child porn either. If I posted a picture of nirvana’s nevermind cd cover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermind)with the little baby in the water with his “weenor” dangling, am I posting child porn? How did they get away with selling it? That’s right, it’s not sexualized and therefore isn’t child porn.

Infact, the threads about an underage forumwarz player’s panties is more cp than the pic I posted.

We don’t know that, what constitutes as CP in Canada so the best thing to do is remove it. The thing we do know is that you had no intent to disrupt, or troll, or cause legal action against CZ so in my opinion you should not be banned.

Ban anyone who posts the nirvana album its p bad. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album) )

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Raepdog Posted:

We don’t know that, what constitutes as CP in Canada so the best thing to do is remove it. The thing we do know is that you had no intent to disrupt, or troll, or cause legal action against CZ so in my opinion you should not be banned.

Ban anyone who posts the nirvana album its p bad. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album) )

so this means there are several albums that are sold on canada that have a underage child shwing breats or male reproductive organ on the fron cover.

if they are on the market that means they were NOT CONSIDERED child porn. yet a stick figure or some funny picture is child porn in YOUR (CZ admin team) opinion

ANGRY HOBO edited this message on 04/17/2009 7:00AM

Wylin

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Raepdog Posted:

We don’t know that, what constitutes as CP in Canada

oh? We can have some idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography#Canada

It’s more restrictive than the US where they can’t have sexual drawings of children in Canada, other than that it seems pretty similar.

Langston Jon-
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Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

so this means there are several albums that are sold on canada that have a underage child shwing breats or male reproductive organ on the fron cover.

if they are on the market that means they were NOT CONSIDERED child porn. yet a stick figure or some funny picture is child porn in YOUR (CZ admin team) opinion

First I don’t think it id porn, I think its a bad album. That was the, poorly executed, joke. The ‘funny’ picture is in the Grey area they say, so they removed it which is the right action. You were banned for male reproductive organing around with the new rule, intentionally provoking something backed up by law. Wylin was trying to be funny, and had no idea nor intention that he could enrage peoples neglected drama glands. Thats why he was not banned.

Im just talking bans, not what makes child pornography. I do want to point out that we do have underage girls posting their bodies a lot which seems to be over looked.. a lot.

Langston Jon-
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Avatar: 57155 2011-07-31 00:44:38 -0400
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Wylin Posted:

oh? We can have some idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography#Canada

It’s more restrictive than the US where they can’t have sexual drawings of children in Canada, other than that it seems pretty similar.

I meant like the legal word for word and stuff. The problem is the legalists, or laywer as they say, use the term sexual and not nude or anything. Sexuality is too subjective.

On a side note cool site it has some funny stuff.

Wylin

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Raepdog Posted:

On a side note cool site it has some funny stuff.

Thanks, for some reason pics from there haven’t been consistently showing up when I post them, so I need to find a new site that is similar. I liked how that one had funny stuff, crazy videos, hot chicks, and web games.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Canadian law forbids the production, distribution, and possession of child pornography. Prohibition covers the visual representations of sexual activity by persons (real or imaginary) under the age of 18 years (...) and the depiction of their sexual organ/anal region for a sexual purpose, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification can be provided. It also includes the written depictions of persons or characters (fictional or non-fictional) under the age of 18 engaging in sexual activity.

My picture:

A drawing and had no visual representation of sexual activity, thus its not child porn according to canadian laws, therefore my ban was unfair

Wylin picture:

The genitalia was not shown for sexual purpose and could be considered artistic, making his ban unfair aswell.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

And now something about this game

Canadian law forbids the production, distribution, and possession of child pornography. Prohibition covers the visual representations of sexual activity by persons (real or imaginary) under the age of 18 years (...) and the depiction of their sexual organ/anal region for a sexual purpose, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification can be provided. It also includes the written depictions of persons or characters (fictional or non-fictional) under the age of 18 engaging in sexual activity.

Dont forget this game is for all ages and in the storyline the player gets to do cyber sex (and that is a type of sexual activity weather you like it or not), so if the player is less than 18 this is also considered child porn according to your canadian laws

ANGRY HOBO edited this message on 04/17/2009 7:18AM

Wylin

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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

My picture:

A drawing and had no visual representation of sexual activity, thus its not child porn according to canadian laws, therefore my ban was unfair

Wylin picture:

The genitalia was not shown for sexual purpose and could be considered artistic, making his ban unfair aswell.

I didn’t get banned even though for some reason I think Fail was pushing for it. I also don’t think you should have been banned, and they should take it back Log in to see images! I read somewhere that you posted your pic in a thread that had something as the title that insinuated there would be childporn inside, so as we know, irritating the mods is never a good idea. You shouldn’t try to push the limits so much, or you’ll end up like Gigerth, and what fun would that be?

ANGRY HOBO Posted:

It also includes the written depictions of persons or characters (fictional or non-fictional) under the age of 18 engaging in sexual activity.[/i]

Dont forget this game is for all ages and in the storyline the player gets to do cyber sex (and that is a type of sexual activity weather you like it or not), so if the player is less than 18 this is also considered child porn according to your canadian laws

lots of the things in this game including items and forums is hinting at cp which is probably borderline in canada.

Wylin edited this message on 04/17/2009 7:23AM

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Wylin Posted:

I didn’t get banned even though for some reason I think Fail was pushing for it. I also don’t think you should have been banned, and they should take it back Log in to see images!

I know my next ban will probably be a permma ban and honestly i dont care, I dont find the game amusing and the forums are getting worse and worse, so if my ban makes this a better place for “future generations” great, if not, i can’t say i didnt tried.

Wylin

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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

I know my next ban will probably be a permma ban and honestly i dont care, I dont find the game amusing and the forums are getting worse and worse, so if my ban makes this a better place for “future generations” great, if not, i can’t say i didnt tried.

Staying here and fighting for it to get better while staying well within the rules will probably have a better result in the end. If you get yourself permabanned you’ll just be another falconfour.

ANGRY HOBO

Avatar: 49150 Tue Aug 11 01:43:48 -0400 2009
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Level 28 Emo Kid

lmbo i gave this account and now its full of people :D bye all this game is ****....................

Wylin Posted:

Staying here and fighting for it to get better while staying well within the rules will probably have a better result in the end. If you get yourself permabanned you’ll just be another falconfour.

If i ever get banned and dont intend to come back like he did. all the times I got banned (and some times it was 1month ban) I didnt made any illigal nor watch flamebate. I honestly dont give a ****, and I will be pushing it since its the only fun think left to do here (by pushing the limits I will always inteend to stay on the rulles)

ANGRY HOBO Posted:

And now something about this game

Canadian law forbids the production, distribution, and possession of child pornography. Prohibition covers the visual representations of sexual activity by persons (real or imaginary) under the age of 18 years (...) and the depiction of their sexual organ/anal region for a sexual purpose, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification can be provided. It also includes the written depictions of persons or characters (fictional or non-fictional) under the age of 18 engaging in sexual activity.

Dont forget this game is for all ages and in the storyline the player gets to do cyber sex (and that is a type of sexual activity weather you like it or not), so if the player is less than 18 this is also considered child porn according to your canadian laws

Wow, it’s technically illegal instead of only distasteful to allow people under 18 to sign up for the game, let alone all the gross crap posted on the forums about them.

MercWithMouth

Avatar: 150029 2009-09-15 13:35:36 -0400
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ANGRY HOBO Posted:

Canadian law forbids the production, distribution, and possession of child pornography. Prohibition covers the visual representations of sexual activity by persons (real or imaginary) under the age of 18 years (...) and the depiction of their sexual organ/anal region for a sexual purpose, unless an artistic, educational, scientific, or medical justification can be provided. It also includes the written depictions of persons or characters (fictional or non-fictional) under the age of 18 engaging in sexual activity.

Contrary to what Wikipedia Log in to see images!

might say…

The ‘Canadian law’ on illegal content is far from a settled point. Though there are likely certain jurisdictions within Canada where the corresponding Canadian prosecutor might attempt to vigorously enforce the cited ‘law’ above (think: places where people ride a moose to work), the likelihood of the law actually surviving judicial scrutiny is close to zero.

And in ‘real’ parts of Canada — places like the Metropolitan Toronto area — any attempt to enforce such a law would result in the prosecuting party being torn to shreds.

This is a grey area of law the fullest extent of which is taken seriously only by the most twisted of minds — much like people who like to enforce the ‘no caps’ rule.

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