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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:04PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
I like the function of score better myself.
edit- oh didn’t see your edit there, ya that would need to be implemented. Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:10PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:06PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
The ET one is the only one out of the five left that’s even remotely funny. I think it’s pretty clear that downvoting = fail as far as this concept goes.
I agree with the people who said that their submissions would’ve been better with a higher character limit. Pluvius edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:09PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:06PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Adapt, I edited my idea before I saw your post to address that issue.
Pluvius Posted:
This also explains a lot. The ET one was not funny to me and I downvoted it. Seems like people’s ideas of “funny” are all over the board, and this may account for a lot of what we’ve seen. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:08PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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I don’t really like any of the current ones left Log in to see images!
The et one was ok, but I usually downvote ones like that because most people are just like “mention et=automatic win” happens in incit a lot. or at least it use to, I don’t really ever use incit. Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:11PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:09PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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I looked into the votes and it looks fairly legit. Out of 300+ players who voted on things, only a few really downvoted in a stupid way. (One dude was -260 vs +4), but even that one case can’t account for what we’re seeing.
The average person voted down more than they voted up. It could be related to the quality of entries, perhaps?
I think we should see it through and see what happens before we make any rash changes. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:16PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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MC Banhammer Posted:
I think the only reason the ones still in it is due to some of us voting right away and upvoting all the decent ones. If some of us weren’t fast enough, none of them would have survived the hour of mainly serial downvoting. I must have voted on at least 20 pages of submissions. The pages droped down to 4 in the next 30 mins. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:16PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wylin Posted:
Or some of the decent ones. But I believe you’re right. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:18PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
No downvoting in the first six hours. Problem solved. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:21PM | View Pluvius's Profile | # | ||||||
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Pluvius Posted:
So people wait 6 hours to downvote. I don’t really see how this fixes anything.
edit- i guess pbuming would help to differentiate the good/bad ideas, but overall I think this just delays the inevitable Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:27PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:25PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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Adapt Posted:
Coordinated downvoting can be thwarted by giving all submissions a fair chance for a few hours to be upvoted if they deserve it. If the first 6 hours are “Upvote or Pbum”, and then you are allowed to go back to your Pbumed votes and change your mind, then that might help avoid the Downvote Rush that kills decent ideas before they have a fair chance. If an idea can ambum, say 5 Upvotes before the Downvote Rush, then it’s twice as difficult for the coordinated downvoters to screw people over. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:31PM | View Acid Flux's Profile | # | ||||||
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The worst part about it was that some of them were so awful with bad grammer and typos, Chinese characters, blank, or were not made to describe a video file, I was kind of happy that I didn’t have to see all of the bad ones as they were being weeded out as I was voting also. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:32PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||
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only 4 left now Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:38PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:33PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wylin Posted:
One of those was one of my alt’s. There was no way to remove it from the running or I would have Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:34PM | View MC Banhammer's Profile | # | ||||||
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Adapt Posted:
2 of which shot up rather quickly in votes. Having few submissions makes voting behave strangely. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:38PM | View Adapt's Profile | # | ||||||
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How about something like:
Day 1) Players get a maximum of 5 up-votes, which they can use on a random selection of 10% of the total submissions – the top 5 submission from this 10% go through to…
Day 2) Players get a maximum of 5 up-votes and can select from all 50 submissions.
This removes downvoting, bias on particular submissions (due to the random 10% factor) and allows everyone (even the bad ones) to get a fair go at it.
Votes are worth more due to their scarcity too.
For the record I got 12 up, 17 down, overall -5 and out!
-m0r m0r1arty edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:53PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:44PM | View m0r1arty's Profile | # | ||||||
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Wylin Posted:
fyi the really long Chinese one was mine and it was a joke/meant to break itembuildr You might bumume lots were jokes |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:47PM | View 1337xxxxxxxxxlol...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:
I did.. I still was gonna downvote all that I didn’t think would fit in as a forumwarz item. |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:48PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||
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Oh god, just caught what is happening, this is lol.
Mine got shot down “Up 2 Down 7,” although it was pretty **** because it’s a meme and all. (Plus the description sucks bum.)
EXTREME ADVERTISING Commercial (30sec).dvdy This is EXTREME MOTHER****ING ADVERTISING, we only sell products that are TITTY ****ING AWESOME, including POWERTHIRST, the energy drink that’s for people who need GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY and the MOTHER****ING EXTREME MOUSE.Johnny Mac edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:55PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 6:55PM | View Johnny Mac's Profile | # | ||||||
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Johnny Mac Posted:
I thought it was just being annoying with the swearing. Wylin edited this message on 03/11/2009 7:01PM |
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Posted On: 03/11/2009 7:01PM | View Wylin's Profile | # | ||||||