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MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2015-06-13 23:16:37 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve is better than me in everyway imaginable

MC Banhammer Posted:

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I thought this was going to be a way to address downvoting, and my mind suddenly went “DING!”

What if everyone was given only a number of votes equal to .5% of the total submissions? So this week we would have had only 12 or 13 votes. This pool would apply only to upvotes and downvotes, but you may pbum as many times as you want. That would mean you’d have to think about where to place your votes.

I like the function of score better myself.

edit- oh didn’t see your edit there, ya that would need to be implemented.

Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:10PM

Pluvius

Avatar: 10089 2010-01-24 16:29:03 -0500
26

[ClansRGay]

Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

The ET one is the only one out of the five left that’s even remotely funny. I think it’s pretty clear that downvoting = fail as far as this concept goes.

I agree with the people who said that their submissions would’ve been better with a higher character limit.

Pluvius edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:09PM

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Adapt, I edited my idea before I saw your post to address that issue.

Pluvius Posted:

The ET one is the only one out of the five left that’s even remotely funny.

This also explains a lot. The ET one was not funny to me and I downvoted it. Seems like people’s ideas of “funny” are all over the board, and this may account for a lot of what we’ve seen.

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2015-06-13 23:16:37 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve is better than me in everyway imaginable

I don’t really like any of the current ones left Log in to see images!

The et one was ok, but I usually downvote ones like that because most people are just like “mention et=automatic win” happens in incit a lot. or at least it use to, I don’t really ever use incit.

Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:11PM

Evil Trout

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Avatar: 35 2023-04-24 23:24:10 +0000

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 21 Hacker

this site is deader than the toddlers in my basement

I looked into the votes and it looks fairly legit. Out of 300+ players who voted on things, only a few really downvoted in a stupid way. (One dude was -260 vs +4), but even that one case can’t account for what we’re seeing.

The average person voted down more than they voted up. It could be related to the quality of entries, perhaps?

I think we should see it through and see what happens before we make any rash changes.

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
35

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Don’t not investigate. But I think if it were fraud, the currently-winning entry would have a lot more votes, and wouldn’t be so good.

What would be interesting would be a report of all voting users, and what their upvote/downvote numbers are, sorted by downvotes from most to fewest. And another one comparing ((upvotes minus downvotes) divided by total votes).

I think the only reason the ones still in it is due to some of us voting right away and upvoting all the decent ones. If some of us weren’t fast enough, none of them would have survived the hour of mainly serial downvoting. I must have voted on at least 20 pages of submissions. The pages droped down to 4 in the next 30 mins.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Wylin Posted:

I think the only reason the ones still in it is due to some of us voting right away and upvoting all the decent ones.

Or some of the decent ones. But I believe you’re right.

Pluvius

Avatar: 10089 2010-01-24 16:29:03 -0500
26

[ClansRGay]

Level 69 Troll

“Human Yeast Infection”

No downvoting in the first six hours. Problem solved.

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2015-06-13 23:16:37 -0400
16

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve is better than me in everyway imaginable

Pluvius Posted:

No downvoting in the first six hours. Problem solved.

So people wait 6 hours to downvote. I don’t really see how this fixes anything.

edit- i guess pbuming would help to differentiate the good/bad ideas, but overall I think this just delays the inevitable

Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:27PM

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
20

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Troll

KYOUBAI IS SUPER-SERIOUS BUSINESS

Adapt Posted:

So people wait 6 hours to downvote. I don’t really see how this fixes anything.

edit- i guess pbuming would help to differentiate the good/bad ideas, but overall I think this just delays the inevitable

Coordinated downvoting can be thwarted by giving all submissions a fair chance for a few hours to be upvoted if they deserve it.

If the first 6 hours are “Upvote or Pbum”, and then you are allowed to go back to your Pbumed votes and change your mind, then that might help avoid the Downvote Rush that kills decent ideas before they have a fair chance. If an idea can ambum, say 5 Upvotes before the Downvote Rush, then it’s twice as difficult for the coordinated downvoters to screw people over.

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
35

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

The worst part about it was that some of them were so awful with bad grammer and typos, Chinese characters, blank, or were not made to describe a video file, I was kind of happy that I didn’t have to see all of the bad ones as they were being weeded out as I was voting also.

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2015-06-13 23:16:37 -0400
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[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve is better than me in everyway imaginable

only 4 left now

Adapt edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:38PM

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

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Wylin Posted:

blank

One of those was one of my alt’s. There was no way to remove it from the running or I would have Log in to see images!

Adapt

Avatar: 58104 2015-06-13 23:16:37 -0400
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[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 48 Camwhore

Celerysteve is better than me in everyway imaginable

Adapt Posted:

only 4 left now

2 of which shot up rather quickly in votes. Having few submissions makes voting behave strangely.

m0r1arty

Avatar: 91736 Tue Mar 24 18:23:44 -0400 2009
5

[The British Gentle-
men Society
]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

How about something like:

Day 1) Players get a maximum of 5 up-votes, which they can use on a random selection of 10% of the total submissions – the top 5 submission from this 10% go through to…

Day 2) Players get a maximum of 5 up-votes and can select from all 50 submissions.

This removes downvoting, bias on particular submissions (due to the random 10% factor) and allows everyone (even the bad ones) to get a fair go at it.

Votes are worth more due to their scarcity too.

For the record I got 12 up, 17 down, overall -5 and out!

-m0r

m0r1arty edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:53PM

Wylin Posted:

The worst part about it was that some of them were so awful with bad grammer and typos, Chinese characters, blank, or were not made to describe a video file, I was kind of happy that I didn’t have to see all of the bad ones as they were being weeded out as I was voting also.

fyi the really long Chinese one was mine and it was a joke/meant to break itembuildr

You might bumume lots were jokes

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
35

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

1337xxxlolololxxx1337 Posted:

fyi the really long Chinese one was mine and it was a joke/meant to break itembuildr

You might bumume lots were jokes

I did.. I still was gonna downvote all that I didn’t think would fit in as a forumwarz item.

Johnny Mac

Avatar: 37704 2022-12-12 08:49:44 +0000
66

[Full of SbumSS]

Level 60 Troll

I grant you an bumhole x

Oh god, just caught what is happening, this is lol.

Mine got shot down “Up 2 Down 7,” although it was pretty **** because it’s a meme and all. (Plus the description sucks bum.)

      EXTREME ADVERTISING Commercial (30sec).dvdy

 This is EXTREME MOTHER****ING ADVERTISING, we only sell products that are TITTY
 ****ING AWESOME, including POWERTHIRST, the energy drink that’s for people who
 need GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY and the MOTHER****ING EXTREME MOUSE.

Johnny Mac edited this message on 03/11/2009 6:55PM

Wylin

Avatar: 19712 Thu Mar 26 21:15:20 -0400 2009
35

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Troll

Causing Jealousy On The Internet On A Daily Basis.

Johnny Mac Posted:

Oh god, just caught what is happening, this is lol.

Mine got shot down “Up 2 Down 7,” although it was pretty **** because it’s a meme and all. (Plus the description sucks bum.)

      EXTREME ADVERTISING Commercial (30sec).dvdy

 This is EXTREME MOTHER****ING ADVERTISING, we only sell products that are TITTY
 ****ING AWESOME, including POWERTHIRST, the energy drink that’s for people who
 need GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF ENERGY and the MOTHER****ING EXTREME MOUSE.

I thought it was just being annoying with the swearing.

Wylin edited this message on 03/11/2009 7:01PM
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