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Macho Macho Men

*takes demeaning pic of woman on knees, subserviantly worshipping male reproductive organ*

*posts it on a site where said woman will be ridiculed for her weight/looks/clothes/every detail*

*whines about misogyny on the internet*


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Xylon

Avatar: 76994 2010-01-16 02:54:34 -0500
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[Kappa Kappa Kappa]

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Posting personal information is fun. Everyone should try it at least once.

scullyangel Posted:

You posted this in NO SRSLY, which is phenomenally troll-bait-y of you, but I’m going to go ahead and pretend it’s not.

I remind myself daily that I typed out the “I’m not easily offended.” I will be scanning idc or the forums and run across something that makes me completely reverse my view of someone. I doubt I’m alone in that. Do I think everyone is role playing when they spew misogynistic, homophobic or just generally derogatory crap? Nope. It simply rolls too easily and often for a lot of them. As a culture, we are far more Jackbum than Monty Python at this point.

Does it really matter and should I object? At times I want to. I do understand the disdain that people can have when someone is acting like a tool, but I generally don’t have the impulse to act mean just for the sake of being mean. I think life is hard enough on a day to day basis without having people you are friendly with suddenly turn on you like a pack of hyenas. Regardless, I personally have no interest in playing moral police on a site that openly encourages trolling.

I can close my browser at any time. I’ve been on the verge of it a lot lately, since I’ve done most everything there is to do game wise. A lot of really cool people have left and I miss them. We’ve lost the vast majority of our interesting rp-ers because they drown under a wave of fabulous person/fine upstanding member of society/mammary glands or GTFO posts. I just don’t think the site gets to have it both ways, and the majority will always take the easy road because a certain personality type gets a thrill from being bad by saying words s/he can’t normally get away with or posting goatse or whatever.

The world is weird right now. Most days it makes me tired. I don’t think it’s just the site, I’ve yet to meet anyone who was interested in playing chess with me at first sight. People are kind of hardwired with some caveman traits. The fact that not one gal had anything to say about the pic in the GGM forum makes me wonder just a bit about this upcoming generation. That was weird and oddly personal, but then everyone seems to think that nothing is personal, so I guess it makes sense. But I digress. Log in to see images!

Bottom line, take this place as it is or don’t. I don’t see a time when they will be creating a “you have to be normal and sane here” forum and there just isn’t going to be a community situation that you find in some places. There are simply going to be old players, new players, cool kids, bumkissers and more porn than average. The forums aren’t a parody of the internet – they are the internet.

1. I posted it in ayn rands, someone moved it.

2. Trolling happens, I just want people to learn what limits and boundaries are.

3. I have no expectation of the hard line trolls to change their ways, but there is hope for some.


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Avatar: 6966 Sat Feb 21 00:54:31 -0500 2009
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In all seriousness, no one comes here looking for limits or boundaries. We don’t come here to learn these things. We come to see how far we can go and how much we can get away with, and some don’t even try to get away with anything and get banned on purpose. It’s constant one-upping. I understand that you may be offended, but I really don’t think anyone cares, seeing as it’s pretty much everyone’s goal here to offend people. If someone’s feelings are really that hurt, they’re obviously in the wrong place. This whole site is about not being “PC”. I look at it like this: if I’m not getting banned then I’m doing nothing wrong. So pretty much, if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

This isn’t a troll, by the way. Just my honest opinion.


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Avatar: 135255 Tue Mar 24 17:02:05 -0400 2009

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“Cutty Cutterson”

Oh, poor Xylon. So much criticism, so far. Some constructive, some not. *shrug* Hey, I’ve got two cents here somewhere…

Let’s see. Mysoginism (sp?) will exist for another century or two, it’s just destined to be. The Puritan church really took a toll on creativity and self-identity during the late Medieval to Renaissance ages, and we’re still strongly feeling the effects of it some…god, what…800 years later? Yeah, there’s something weird ingrained in the human species, and it takes a severely aware and open family/social life to break it. Personally, the church has their fingers in all the pies, but we still keep baking. WTF. Meh…society.

Offense. I’m a gay male and I know a real fabulous person when I see one. And I’ll use the word when appropriate, because it’s a word…and honestly in today’s world you can pretty much make up definitions to a word because…well, without getting to rapt in heavy communication theory, words are only as strong as you the user make them. Yeah, there’s a lot to be said about words developing from the community that uses them, but in the end, if I call you a fabulous person, it’s because I think you’re too proudly acting out all those stereotypes that the homosexual population has suffered from for almost a century, hell, since the word ‘homosexual’ was invented. It wasn’t even really a tangible concept until the word was invented, and now…god knows how many ‘kids’ today have the word ‘gay’ as a part of their vernacular. Whatever, I can’t change them, don’t plan on it, got other **** to do.

(PS, if someone wants to flame the **** out of me because of orientation, bring it, bloodsacks.)

However…it does get BORING to read (****er, fine upstanding member of society, woman's genitals, fabulous person, male reproductive organsucker, gtfo) all over FW. So, they’ve just become ‘another insult.’ Meh. Insults are easy, flaming often lacks creativity. I’ve been on here for a good couple weeks now, and other than the FW game, I’m not finding any interesting character creationg and adhesive rp’ing. I have some ideas that I would like to put out there, but due to the easy facility of insults and pic-flaming-trolling, my path is a little steeper. Meh, again.

So, I guess, in the end, the major problem is civilization celebrating the easy/convenient/quantity/commonality/accessibility and shaming the intricate/difficult/well-thought/introspective/intangible.

So, the question is, how do we find solace in this game without changing the game? Or, if you wanna be more aggressive, how does one pay respect to the game and yet make it inhabitable. I’m with ya either way, just let me know.

Meantime, Ima go back to lurking and reading. Take care.


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scullyangel Posted:

...I’ve yet to meet anyone who was interested in playing chess with me at first sight.

Hell yeah!

I’m white.

King’s knight to f3.

That said, I like chess. And also have yet to meet anyone who was interested in playing chess with me at first sight. And must admit that I sincerely believe that fact sucks.

Also:

Creeppipe Posted:

Those who use insults like fabulous person, male reproductive organsucker and gb2kitchen are just lazy. They got in their car, went down to the insults store and picked up the first thing they saw on sale. What’s even sadder than these people being so lazy to use such a beaten to death insult is the fact that these insults still get a rise out of people.

As you said most of the people that the word fabulous person would get a real rise out, in this day of age, of are probably insecure if not confused with their sexuality. At this point someone calling me a fabulous person on the internet translates into the phrase “you’re on the internet and I disagree with you, yet have no real retort.”

Telling a chick to gb2kitchen or mammary glands or GTFO is the internet equivalent to being in second grade and kicking sand at a girl. She’s different, you know she’s different, you’re going to pretend to hate it but at the same time you’re interested in what makes her different.

As I said people are lazy. Look at stereotypes. They’ve been the same forever because they still get a rise out of people. That’s why these insults work, they still get a rise out of people. I personally like insults that are original…even if they don’t make a whole lot of sense. At least they make you think for a moment.

QFT.


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Xylon Posted:

What is it about insecure men that makes them so unsavory? I find it mildly amusing that so many men on this site try to posture themselves as bastions of heterosexuality. As if their inability to adjust to this new and exciting world where the old stereotypes is somehow admirable. The truth is, for all the trolling and insults by lashing out at others on the basis of their sexuality or gender you are identifying yourself with an archaic mindset held by idiots and those who could not stand against the crowd.

Real men do not objectify women. You are not manly because you pursue the conquest of woman's genitals after woman's genitals. Women are people, they breath, they eat, they have souls. Women are like men in that we are of the same species and we have the same rights.

Trolling for lulz is fine in small doses. At some point the wide scale objectification of women and the ominous homophobia on this site really does have to register with someone as wrong.

Using terms like ‘fabulous person’ and ‘male reproductive organ sucker’ as insults reinforce the idea that it is wrong to be gay or bi. I myself am bisexual. I have made that pretty clear on this site. I have thick skin and I can handle anything you throw at me. The thing is not everyone is so jaded. Think before you act. 99.9% of the trolling on this site is only funny to the OP.

Just something to think about.

Okay, so I actually took the time to read this post and for the most part hold the same views you do. I throw around the term “fabulous person” quite a bit out of habit, but it’s something that’s grown very outdated, at least to me. Whether it’s because of me maturing or because of the prevalence of it on these forums, I’m not sure.

I think one of the worst words being repeated on this site is “fine upstanding member of society”, and not necessarily because it’s particularly offensive, but rather the opposite; It’s repetition has ripped away any sense of edginess it once had. By saying “fine upstanding member of society” you’re pretty much explicitly stating how incredibly uncreative and moronic you are. The same goes for a lot of the misogyny “ironically” plastered across the forums. It’s not funny, it stopped being funny 2 years after you found the internet and grew up.

You can scream and shout about freedom of speech all you want, about certain things being just words, but we live in a world where these words carry connotations. Using those words here will only brand you as dull, but if you seriously think that IRL the word “fine upstanding member of society” and “fabulous person” don’t justifiably carry a tremendous amount of stigma then you need to turn off South Park, graduate from high school and attempt to understand the world around you and its history.

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Shii

Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
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I haven't seen a bad idea that I didn't like.

As someone who is a bewildering mish-mosh of about 10 different easily stereotyped and ridiculed “labels,” I kind of see both sides. I’ve been on the side that gets ridiculed a lot, and I don’t really mind.

Just because I’m not afraid of the person I am, I offer this:

1. I am a Christ-follower.

2. I am a furry.

3. I am a ridiculously perverted deviant.

4. I am an upper-clbum white male.

5. I wear chains, spikes, collars, leather, the works.

6. I am a musician.

7. Since it’s the most important to me, it belongs twice. I am a Christ-follower.

And to the outside person, it doesn’t make sense. I’ve been accused of being a poser, a fake, a liar, a furfabulous person, a regular fabulous person, an emo, a hypocrite, basically everything you can think of. If you give me time and an open mind, I can explain how such a mangle can co-exist (which I won’t get into here.)

The names used to bother me; however, I got over it. I don’t need anothers’ acceptance for my own self-validation.

Likewise, implicit within that, I don’t need to bumert my dominance or edginess over women or those who hold different ideals and viewpoints than I do. I think the “MACHO MEN” who try to one-up themselves over everyone else are really no different than the ‘weak, co-dependent’ women they mock. Their sense of self-worth is tied to being perceived as the bigger, stronger personality. In truth, it’s those who are merely content who are truly the “strong.”

Personally, I’d rather discuss and philosophize differences than argue (which has also gotten me hella flak.) People have a lot of hatred for what they don’t understand or don’t agree with. I agree with Scully in that it would be prudent for us to step back and remind ourselves that we typed in the “I am not easily offended.” as well.


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SIG-ENABLING MOCK-CONGLER Posted:

Shii: youre a ****ing retard-esque

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Avatar: 135255 Tue Mar 24 17:02:05 -0400 2009

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Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

heh, I thought Shii was a girl. Lesson learned.


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Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
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heh, I thought Shii was a girl. Lesson learned.

lmfao


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SIG-ENABLING MOCK-CONGLER Posted:

Shii: youre a ****ing retard-esque

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Avatar: 7241 2011-07-31 00:42:33 -0400
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Wait wait wait, back the **** up, is this thread serious?

I posted this thread, just yesterday. I know I’ve used words like “fabulous person” a lot on this website, but I hardly think I’m making myself out to be some kind “paragon of manliness”, or whatever it was you said, on this website.

I know the internet is serious business and ****, Xylon, but pretending to be an ignorant racist is actually pretty fun. And I wouldn’t hesitate to bet that the only reason a lot of us still visit Forumwarz is to have a venue to post offensive content while (and here’s the cool part!) not possibly offending anyone. I know I don’t come here because the game itself is fun – CZ’s pretty much turned it into “press number keys until the thread is dead.”

Nobody here is posting stuff like “Hey guys what’s up I’m just smokin’ some doobs and punchin’ some woman's genitalss” because they don’t respect women, homosexuals, etc. They’re not even trying to be offensive. They’re just trying to be funny. Oh, and by the way, don’t forget that we all typed the phrase “I am not easily offended” when we joined this website. Log in to see images!

Like I said before, the Flamebate is a place where we can post racist, sexist, etc., content, safe in the bumumption that nobody will be offended by it. If you know anything about internet culture, than you know that complete anonymity has allowed for a surge in racist attitudes and hate groups – the game and community of Forumwarz were created in parody and in satire of this.

I know that a lot of what I just posted sounds trollish, but I’m serious when I say chill out, we’re all just trying to have some fun here, and nobody’s trying to hurt anyone. The only people who have been ousted from this community were players like FalconFour and Dante Kinkade, and only because they took the drama way to seriously.


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The point – my point, at least, is that it’s not funny. It’s not offensive, and I doubt anyone here is really saying it is.

I’m just appalled at the lack of creativity, that simply trying to be offensive (and failing) is being substituted for actually doing so.

There’s also the point that all these claims of “But I don’t really think that way! It’s just the internet!” are false, and that while the author may not be overtly racist or misogynistic, there might be subtle undertones of these things in their actual beliefs.


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Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
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I haven't seen a bad idea that I didn't like.

nanalatinojesus gets you JUSTICE IN YOUR FORUMS Posted:

The point – my point, at least, is that it’s not funny. It’s not offensive, and I doubt anyone here is really saying it is.

I’m just appalled at the lack of creativity, that simply trying to be offensive (and failing) is being substituted for actually doing so.

There’s also the point that all these claims of “But I don’t really think that way! It’s just the internet!” are false, and that while the author may not be overtly racist or misogynistic, there might be subtle undertones of these things in their actual beliefs.

This.

I’ve only really been mad about one time at a troll on here, and that was DrunkenLazyBastard when he was doing one of his “I love watching videos like 3guys1hammer cuz watching innocent people get horrifically murdered is funny.”

Then I realized he was trolling and doing it really well and calmed down.


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Shii: youre a ****ing retard-esque

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“Cutty Cutterson”

nanalatinojesus gets you JUSTICE IN YOUR FORUMS Posted:

The point – my point, at least, is that it’s not funny. It’s not offensive, and I doubt anyone here is really saying it is.

I’m just appalled at the lack of creativity, that simply trying to be offensive (and failing) is being substituted for actually doing so.

There’s also the point that all these claims of “But I don’t really think that way! It’s just the internet!” are false, and that while the author may not be overtly racist or misogynistic, there might be subtle undertones of these things in their actual beliefs.

here, here. *nod* creativity needs to go beyond words.


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Who cares if they’re unfunny? That’s irrelevant to substance of this thread. This thread is about the possibility of someone being offended by the content here, and I’m arguing that the satirical nature of said content is blindingly obvious.

And yes, those “subtle undertones” are present in all of these posts. We all have them, because we’ve been conditioned by cultures and media that tell us that gay men act effeminate, that women should act subservient to men, etc. But I know you’re a smart person, and I know a lot of the regulars on this site are smart people. Nobody here thinks that this kind of posting reflects the actual beliefs of the poster.


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man im just poppin in with my opinion on the lack of creativity since it’s something that’s been bugging me for a bit and this is the most appropriate thread to do so

edit: everyone is a racist misogynist except me.

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Oh, I agree that the a lot of the posts here are uncreative and funny. It’s just that they’re not relevant to this thread(’s interests).


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Avatar: 146698 Mon Mar 02 17:31:25 -0500 2009

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Xylon Posted:

What is it about insecure men that makes them so unsavory? I find it mildly amusing that so many men on this site try to posture themselves as bastions of heterosexuality. As if their inability to adjust to this new and exciting world where the old stereotypes is somehow admirable. The truth is, for all the trolling and insults by lashing out at others on the basis of their sexuality or gender you are identifying yourself with an archaic mindset held by idiots and those who could not stand against the crowd.

Please stop whining; nobody is being insecure by making jokes about women/blacks/gays. They get picked on because of two reasons: one, is that they’re obvious targets and jokes regarding them are pretty obvious, and secondly, trolls, from my experience, like to blatantly irritate anyone who is part of the PC, mainstream “we’re all equal” crowd of acceptance.

I know for a fact there were multiple homosexuals in the GNAA, for example. Just simply the people who make these jokes, and honestly regardless of their beliefs, aren’t going to actually care. The only people who care are whining hipsters who are insecure of themselves and and thus militantly fight against trolls who mock them for “deviations.”

Real men do not objectify women. You are not manly because you pursue the conquest of woman's genitals after woman's genitals. Women are people, they breath, they eat, they have souls. Women are like men in that we are of the same species and we have the same rights.

I objectify women quite a lot. I don’t think of them as equals to men at all, but I don’t _HATE_ them. I’m not going to go out of my way to hurt a woman or abuse her. I just don’t view them as equal to men, so I love to make jokes about them to rile them up. I respect women who don’t get riled (in fact I’ve had girls camwhore for me for doing such and I’ve always kept my promise about not sending **** out) but I don’t try to pretend that since we’re the same species and whatnot that we’re different. I don’t need catchy, feel-good phrases.

Trolling for lulz is fine in small doses. At some point the wide scale objectification of women and the ominous homophobia on this site really does have to register with someone as wrong.

Do you realize how moronic this sounds? Trolling _IS_ about offending people, at least, the best trolling is. Otherwise, you’re left with lame “trolling” like crapflooding or rickrolling people.

Using terms like ‘fabulous person’ and ‘male reproductive organ sucker’ as insults reinforce the idea that it is wrong to be gay or bi. I myself am bisexual. I have made that pretty clear on this site. I have thick skin and I can handle anything you throw at me. The thing is not everyone is so jaded. Think before you act. 99.9% of the trolling on this site is only funny to the OP.

I’m an internet troll, and I will go for the jugular against people, but I_DO_NOT_CARE at heart. If I know something is going to bother somebody (and let’s face it, many women, minorities, and gays are insecure) so I’m clearly going to tap into that to get a hilarious reaction. Those who don’t bite and don’t act like stuck-up fabulous personS about it I’m going to respect, and that’s how I’ve found cool people to hang out with (and IRL dates too haha).

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BEAT_WOMEN Posted:

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I’m an internet troll, and I will go for the jugular against people, but I_DO_NOT_CARE at heart. If I know something is going to bother somebody (and let’s face it, many women, minorities, and gays are insecure) so I’m clearly going to tap into that to get a hilarious reaction. Those who don’t bite and don’t act like stuck-up fabulous personS about it I’m going to respect, and that’s how I’ve found cool people to hang out with (and IRL dates too haha).

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Yes, but nothing you’ve ever posted is funny or entertaining.

And now we all know that you’re a terrible person as well.

You can go ahead and say all you want that you really don’t care about what I, or others, think of you, but if you didn’t you wouldn’t be posting here in the first place.


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Avatar: 146698 Mon Mar 02 17:31:25 -0500 2009

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nanalatinojesus gets you JUSTICE IN YOUR FORUMS Posted:

Yes, but nothing you’ve ever posted is funny or entertaining.

And now we all know that you’re a terrible person as well.

You can go ahead and say all you want that you really don’t care about what I, or others, think of you, but if you didn’t you wouldn’t be posting here in the first place.

You are a something awful goon, judging by the sites you like, at least I’m going to bumume so, as SA’s front page is so pathetic that people only go there for the forums. Let me tell you — I rate even 4chan higher than something awful posters. SA goons have thin skins and are quite frankly some of the biggest pussies on the internet. Biggest whiners, at least. Maybe I’d be more funny if I made a Log in to see images! joke.

I don’t care what you think. What you do say interests me because I appreciate positive and negative feedback; moreso negative. And I wasn’t even trolling there, but clearly I’m too abrasive for some internet kool kid to even handle when I’m being myself.


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