Evil Trout Posted:

We actually already calculate the ratios for all players to help us catch cheating. It honestly hadn’t occurred to me to show them to the public. My first feeling was that it’s a violation of privacy, but then again it doesn’t say what you voted for, only how you vote on average.

Maybe it would be good for the community to show those stats?

Or would it lead to a lot of evil fighting and discrimination Log in to see images!

It might lead to fights but heated fights leads to pranks and that means more Log in to see images! funkytowel edited this message on 03/11/2008 9:59PM

handofg0d Posted:

True, but I say for the logos they just put a time stamp on each entry – there’s few enough that it would be easy to sift through and spot which was first, also it would work as a deterrent.

Unless the same author resubmitted one with better transparency or “fixed” in some way. Then the new, better one would get downvoted. :0/

How about this? Each user would be given a random nickname using our nickname generator. So you could see if the same user submitted each one, and yet it would still be anonymous.

P.S. The date is a cool idea I think.

Evil Trout Posted:

How about this? Each user would be given a random nickname using our nickname generator. So you could see if the same user submitted each one, and yet it would still be anonymous.

P.S. The date is a cool idea I think.

Not so anonymous if you can see which nickname you’ve ended up with, and tell the rest of the klan.

Would be pretty bad if applied to all submissions rather than just logos.

Stupid Magpie Posted:

Not so anonymous if you can see which nickname you’ve ended up with, and tell the rest of the klan.

Would be pretty bad if applied to all submissions rather than just logos.

A Klan member could just as easily tell his clan his submissions.

I think one big thing is that early submissions get upvoted disproportionately, not because they’re necessarily good, but because they’re not necessarily bad. People might realize they like later submissions more, but the damage is already done. I think we should have voting disabled until a certain day, maybe Friday, upon which submissions would be closed off and people could vote. Either that, or people should be allowed to change their votes (though I can see potential for abuse there).

handofg0d Posted:

Random Nick sounds good to me.

@Stupid Magpie – true but the same goes true for any indicator that we could come up with. A simple solution (that is, simple in theory, not in programming)

Have the Random Nickname show up differently for everyone. That is to say, if I look at a list of submissions it will be:

Fart_Mage_69

iLIKEtoEAT****

NiXoN_WuZ_FrAmEd

Fart_Mage_69

BillyTheKnife

but when you look at it, it might look like this:

BarryManilowFan12

ronpaul_ronpaul

Furry_Fan_Xx

BarryManilowFan12

2_HOT_2_B_14

This way you can spot who re-submitted without being able to identify it across the board for every user.

(Note – I think this is what EvilTrout meant anyway)

I like those nicknames. They’ll go in the pile Log in to see images!

Funcdizzi Posted:

you still need to link something to alignment on our characters

It’s going to happen in episode 2. And I don’t think that forumbuildr or any multiplayer-related things should really effect alignment, except maybe pranks – but it would be difficult to decide whether it was a nice or a naughty prank.

I guess if we all pbumed and upvoted at least as much as we downvoted the problem might heal itself

you and I, judging by our vote ratios, are part of the problem, eh?

I don’t know if Klan-based organized voting is still a problem, but while randomly browsing profiles, I discovered a member of a prominent Klan who had ‘Vote for XXXXXXXX Forum’ in their profile. The forum appeared to be doing quite well. This person had a long list of friends who probably check their profile from time to time to compare trophies and e-Peen.

Perhaps this is why certain forums seem to succeed and others fail. I suppose it’s next to impossible to monitor secret ways in which Klans communicate which forums they want everyone to vote for, but this apparently is one of them that’s directly related to the ForumWarz site.

Maybe a search on each user’s profile for a submitted forum would turn up more campaigning like this?